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locked Re: Cge-Pro

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 09:39 PM, myron_wasiuta wrote:
Its a fantastic system! I had help from Jerry himself, as well as Matt Scott whi did the machning for us. Could not have done it without either of them!I have enclosed a couple photos showing the telescope and mounts. 
 
I want to say that this is not a product offered by Explore Scientific. This was a prototype development at the MSRO where Explore Scientific does product testing and future product development research. 
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


locked Re: Cge-Pro

myron_wasiuta
 


Ettore,
Your question about the CGE Pro is interesting. I use a CGE Pro to carry a 10” RC. Its true it would be difficult to convert to a PMC-8 system.  But it is possible. It wiuld tske skulled machining to modify the motor blocks and definately  require a reprogramming of the PMC -8. Interstingly as I am clise friends ( and neighbor) of Jerry Hubbell we actually did convert a CGE mount to the PMC-8 which we use in our Station 3 enclosure. Its a fantastic system! I had help from Jerry himself, as well as Matt Scott whi did the machning for us. Could not have done it without either of them!I have enclosed a couple photos showing the telescope and mounts. 

Myron Wasiuta
Director- Mark Slade Remote Observatory 
Wilderness VirginiaUSA

On Sep 9, 2021, at 9:20 PM, ettore.ribaudo@... wrote:



I have to buy the Newton 305/1200

Ettore

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Mounts: IExos 100
Scopes: Tecnosky 70ED F 4.8
Cameras:  Nikon D5300
Country:Italy


locked Re: Cge-Pro

ettore.ribaudo@...
 

I have to buy the Newton 305/1200

Ettore

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Mounts: IExos 100
Scopes: Tecnosky 70ED F 4.8
Cameras:  Nikon D5300
Country:Italy


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Frank Rich
 

I think it’s great for your 1st,we only go up from here 

Frank Rich

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 3:44 PM Godfrey B <godash23@...> wrote:
My first post!
Heart Star.jpg

Taken on Sept 6th in my front yard
392x25s ISO 1600 using an Optolong L-pro filter and my 70-300mm Nikkor with the IEXOS-100 and my Nikon D5300

This photo is 2hrs and 24 mins of integration time in a Bortle 8 zone - its not much, but it's mine.


On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 3:13 PM Dave Cherry <andromedacity@...> wrote:

Some very nice shots there guys 😊

 

I haven’t posted for a while.

Here in Uk we haven’t had a great deal of clear nights

There was a a couple recently with a v dark moonless sky

 

I was happy to get this one of Andromeda in my Bortle 4-5 sky with just a  uv filter

 

I took 3.5 hours of lights, but wind blew the mount quite a bit so after throwing the blurs out, this shot is about 2 hrs worth of subs

 

Comments (good.. and constructive!) welcome.

 

Cheers

Dave C

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


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Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED
Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope
Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools


--

Godfrey Benjamin
Mount: IEXOS-100 with Polar Scope
Camera: Nikon D5300
Hardware: Amazon Fire HD8
Software: ExploreStars
Scarborough, Ontario, Canada


locked Re: Cge-Pro

Mike Hammer
 

Ettore,

The CGE-Pro uses servo motors with encoders. The PMC-8 is designed to work with stepper motors. Even if you had stepper motors, you would almost certainly need to be able to reprogram the PMC-8 for your gear ratio.

The CGE-Pro is a massive mount, just curious as to what telescope you are going to use with it? It would be massive overkill with the 70ED.

Regards 

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 1:57 PM <ettore.ribaudo@...> wrote:

Hello boys i have other mount CGE-PRO, is possible to install PMC-Eight Goto?

I wait.

regards.

Ettore

--
Mounts: Iexos 100
Scopes: Tecnosky 70ED F 4.8
Cameras:  Nikon D5300
Country:Italy


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Chris Hanson
 
Edited

My first picture

Taken September 6 from my backyard



Scopes: Celestron 8" Edge HD
Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Cameras: ASI 183MCPRO Cooled, Celestron .7 Reducer
Software: ASIStudio Planetary Imaging , Stellarium, Photoshop, AutoStakkert


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Godfrey B
 

My first post!
Heart Star.jpg

Taken on Sept 6th in my front yard
392x25s ISO 1600 using an Optolong L-pro filter and my 70-300mm Nikkor with the IEXOS-100 and my Nikon D5300

This photo is 2hrs and 24 mins of integration time in a Bortle 8 zone - its not much, but it's mine.


On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 3:13 PM Dave Cherry <andromedacity@...> wrote:

Some very nice shots there guys 😊

 

I haven’t posted for a while.

Here in Uk we haven’t had a great deal of clear nights

There was a a couple recently with a v dark moonless sky

 

I was happy to get this one of Andromeda in my Bortle 4-5 sky with just a  uv filter

 

I took 3.5 hours of lights, but wind blew the mount quite a bit so after throwing the blurs out, this shot is about 2 hrs worth of subs

 

Comments (good.. and constructive!) welcome.

 

Cheers

Dave C

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


--
Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED
Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope
Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools


--

Godfrey Benjamin
Mount: IEXOS-100 with Polar Scope
Camera: Nikon D5300
Hardware: Amazon Fire HD8
Software: ExploreStars
Scarborough, Ontario, Canada


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Dave Cherry
 

Some very nice shots there guys 😊

 

I haven’t posted for a while.

Here in Uk we haven’t had a great deal of clear nights

There was a a couple recently with a v dark moonless sky

 

I was happy to get this one of Andromeda in my Bortle 4-5 sky with just a  uv filter

 

I took 3.5 hours of lights, but wind blew the mount quite a bit so after throwing the blurs out, this shot is about 2 hrs worth of subs

 

Comments (good.. and constructive!) welcome.

 

Cheers

Dave C

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


--
Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED
Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope
Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools


locked Cge-Pro

ettore.ribaudo@...
 

Hello boys i have other mount CGE-PRO, is possible to install PMC-Eight Goto?

I wait.

regards.

Ettore

--
Mounts: Iexos 100
Scopes: Tecnosky 70ED F 4.8
Cameras:  Nikon D5300
Country:Italy


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Frank Rich
 

Very Nice Ian!!, thanks for the link to articles on Starnett

Frank R

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM Ian Morison <ian@...> wrote:
Hi All,
          I bought the iEXOS-100 to take on our Astronomy Society Field trips to a dark site.  Due to COVID we have just had our first visit to Anglesey - so this is my first result from a dark sky.   I used a Nikon to astro-camera adapter with a 300 mm, f/4.5, lens at full aperture and took 200, 30 second exposures.  Frames were aligned and stacked in Deep Sky Stacker and then  the galaxy and stars were separated using Starnett++.  Both images were then processed individually and recombined.  This allows one to enhance the galaxy without 'blowing out' the stars.

Articles about this, Starnett++ and many other aspects of astrophotography which could be useful can be found in my 'Astronomy Digest'  - just search or goto:  www.ianmorison.com. (Note a single 'r')
It is a super little mount!

Cheers,
Ian

PS: Having Polar aligned using SharpCap Pro, Andromeda was dead centre in the frame!


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

Wow. Wow. Wow. 
Nice shot Ming.   
Ian that’s great.   Got to look into your processing software you mentioned.


Wes


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Ian Morison
 

Hi All,
          I bought the iEXOS-100 to take on our Astronomy Society Field trips to a dark site.  Due to COVID we have just had our first visit to Anglesey - so this is my first result from a dark sky.   I used a Nikon to astro-camera adapter with a 300 mm, f/4.5, lens at full aperture and took 200, 30 second exposures.  Frames were aligned and stacked in Deep Sky Stacker and then  the galaxy and stars were separated using Starnett++.  Both images were then processed individually and recombined.  This allows one to enhance the galaxy without 'blowing out' the stars.

Articles about this, Starnett++ and many other aspects of astrophotography which could be useful can be found in my 'Astronomy Digest'  - just search or goto:  www.ianmorison.com. (Note a single 'r')
It is a super little mount!

Cheers,
Ian

PS: Having Polar aligned using SharpCap Pro, Andromeda was dead centre in the frame!


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Ming
 
Edited

Tried imaging with the iEXOS-100 two days ago. I normally use my AZ-EQ6 for this but as I was using the Altair 72EDF for NGC7000, I thought I'd give the little ES mount a go given the lighter payload.

Image captured in Kstars/Ekos with PHD2 guiding running on a Pi4, then processed in DSS and PS CS. 42 x 3min (2h6min) at gain 20 offset 35 including 20 darks, flats and flat darks each. The guiding was surprisingly good considering how much I actually paid for the mount. Average RMS was between 0.8 and 1.1 arcsec.


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Scopes: APM-LZOS 115/805, Skywatcher 200P Dob, APM 107/700 (grab'n'go) & Altair 72EDF (terrestrial & white light solar)
Mount: Skywatcher AZ-EQ6 Pro w/ ADM DV saddle + QHY Polemaster, ES iEXOS-100 PMC8 w/ Fine AZ adjuster + ST2 tripod + RPi eFinder & Scopetech Mount Zero

Eyepieces: ES68 34mm, 24mm, 20mm; ES82 14mm, 8.8mm; Pentax XW 10mm; Baader Morpheus 6.5mm, Mark IV 8-24mm Zoom, 2.25x Q-Barlow; TV Delos 4.5mm, 2.5x Powermate
Imaging: QHY 163C, TS 2" 0.79x FR/FF, APM Riccardi 0.75x FR/FF M63, SW Evoguide flattener, IDAS NB1 triband filter, SW Evoguide 50ED + ZWO ASI120MM Mini (guiding)

Binoculars: Vixen Ascot ZR 8x42WP


Re: Explore Stars WIFI not working

Wes Mcdonald
 

Wayne

Glad it worked out for you!

That thing where the app needs to be closed is one of those stupid little tricks.  Important though!

Wes


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Explore Stars WIFI not working

wayne archard
 

Wes.  SUCCESS!!!!!  I think it was the not deleting the open Explore Stars app on the ipad that was the problem.  I even got the old Android tablet to work with it.  Thanks for all your help and I hope not to bother you again.
Wayne

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 5:50 PM Wes Mcdonald <wesmcd6@...> wrote:
Wayne:

No, you cannot load ascom etc on your ipad.  They are for PC only.

I trust you connected the ipad to the wifi for the pmc8?  Also, you made sure the PC did not connect to the pmc8 wifi correct?

So try this:

1.  Disconnect all serial stuff from pmc8.  Ensure PC is not connected to pmc8 wifi.
2.  Stop all instances of explorestars on the ipad.  there can be only one.  Do you know how to get rid of applications on the ipad?  You click the round button to show all applications and you sweep them up.  You have to do this to get rid of an old Exlorestars.  If you dont it aint gonna work.  Old sessions will not connect correctly.
3.  disconnect the ipad from the pmc8 wifi.
4.Reboot the pmc8.
5. Connect the ipad to the pmc8 wifi
6.  Boot the Explorestars.  Can you move the mount?

Assuming you can move the mount, now redo steps 1-3 as appropriate.

Then do:
1.  Connect serial cable from PC to PMC8.  Ensure PC wifi cannot connect to pmc8 wifi
2.  Boot POTH.  Connect poth to mount.
3.  Connect the ipad to the pmc8 wifi
4.  Boot Explorestars -- this is important.  It must not have been running already, see step 2 in the first sequence.
5.  Does the mount respond to Explorestars?  It should.

Assuming you get this far, 
1.  boot CdC.  connect CdC to Poth
2.  Does explorestars still command the mount? LDU buttons.
3.  Do a goto with the CDC, making sure the ipad indicates the explorestars is in T mode.

Generally the Explorestars needs to be in T mode before it is given control.  This mode change is automatic in the ipad when you press LRDU or menu etc.  Make sure this is happening.

Let me know how you do.
Wes.



--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Com Port

Wes Mcdonald
 

Don

Read my long note.  You do. It have to connect cm via the connection tab to load software.  

Wes


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Com Port

Don Bradford
 

Brand new mount (EXOS2).  I don't plan to use Poth or serial control from Windows 10, only WiFi with ExploreStars.  Only need serial from Windows to upgrade firmware.  Don't know what version of firmware came with PMCEight.  Picked it up a few weeks ago.  I have an email to kent Marts to see if the paperwork shows.  I should be able to control the mount with ASIAIR Pro (through serial port) concurrently with WiFi (either iPad or Windows), right?  In any event, with the current firmware (which I don't think I have yet), it should be easier to start with either ASIAIR or WiFi/ExploreStars.  Right now (with my current version of firmware), the PMC-Eight seems to have trouble getting to the right connection.  But more to the current point:  As I have discussed, I can't get Windows 10 to do anything with the PMCEight.  If I can get the Windows 10/WiFi to connect for purposes of getting the CM to connect to serial to load firmware, I will be OK and can re-invert the DTR if I have to.  Then either buy another cable, or invert it again for ASIAIR use.  

On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Wes Mcdonald <wesmcd6@...> wrote:

Don:

1.  You may control the mount via Windows wifi OR ipad wifi.  You cannot do both.
2. In parallels, you are just running windows.  Thus you select the serial port via the comm port selection in the ascom driver.  You are setting up the Driver as serial are you not?  It is one of the setup pages (main one I think) that happens when you open the settings for the driver from poth.
3.  You can use the windows device manager to find the usb to serial converter.

I verified the PMC8 will boot and run with the DTR line inverted.  So that is good.  I am not sure you can run the CM to load firmware with it that way, but you might be able to.  I have no way to try it.

What version of firmware are you running?  How old is your mount and have you ever upgraded it?

Wes.


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Com Port

Wes Mcdonald
 

Don:

1.  You may control the mount via Windows wifi OR ipad wifi.  You cannot do both.
2. In parallels, you are just running windows.  Thus you select the serial port via the comm port selection in the ascom driver.  You are setting up the Driver as serial are you not?  It is one of the setup pages (main one I think) that happens when you open the settings for the driver from poth.
3.  You can use the windows device manager to find the usb to serial converter.

I verified the PMC8 will boot and run with the DTR line inverted.  So that is good.  I am not sure you can run the CM to load firmware with it that way, but you might be able to.  I have no way to try it.

What version of firmware are you running?  How old is your mount and have you ever upgraded it?

Wes.


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Explore Stars WIFI not working

Wes Mcdonald
 

Wayne:

No, you cannot load ascom etc on your ipad.  They are for PC only.

I trust you connected the ipad to the wifi for the pmc8?  Also, you made sure the PC did not connect to the pmc8 wifi correct?

So try this:

1.  Disconnect all serial stuff from pmc8.  Ensure PC is not connected to pmc8 wifi.
2.  Stop all instances of explorestars on the ipad.  there can be only one.  Do you know how to get rid of applications on the ipad?  You click the round button to show all applications and you sweep them up.  You have to do this to get rid of an old Exlorestars.  If you dont it aint gonna work.  Old sessions will not connect correctly.
3.  disconnect the ipad from the pmc8 wifi.
4.Reboot the pmc8.
5. Connect the ipad to the pmc8 wifi
6.  Boot the Explorestars.  Can you move the mount?

Assuming you can move the mount, now redo steps 1-3 as appropriate.

Then do:
1.  Connect serial cable from PC to PMC8.  Ensure PC wifi cannot connect to pmc8 wifi
2.  Boot POTH.  Connect poth to mount.
3.  Connect the ipad to the pmc8 wifi
4.  Boot Explorestars -- this is important.  It must not have been running already, see step 2 in the first sequence.
5.  Does the mount respond to Explorestars?  It should.

Assuming you get this far, 
1.  boot CdC.  connect CdC to Poth
2.  Does explorestars still command the mount? LDU buttons.
3.  Do a goto with the CDC, making sure the ipad indicates the explorestars is in T mode.

Generally the Explorestars needs to be in T mode before it is given control.  This mode change is automatic in the ipad when you press LRDU or menu etc.  Make sure this is happening.

Let me know how you do.
Wes.



--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Explore Stars WIFI not working

wayne archard
 

Wes I did as you instructed and connected the laptop serially to the PMC-8, then hooked up CDC with POTH Telescope.  I slewed to M31.  I opened Explore Stars on my ipad with Wifi and tried to move the mount with the UDRL buttons.  No response.  Do I need to put ASCOM, POTH and CDC on my ipad?
Wayne

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 10:52 PM Wes Mcdonald <wesmcd6@...> wrote:
Wayne:

1.  Be sure your PC does not connect to the wifi of the pmc8.  Forget the network and don't let it connect.
2.  Once PC will not connect via wifi, boot the PMC8.
3.  At this point you may connect your PC serially with stellarium under ascom or stellarium natively I believe.  But honestly I have not tested dual mode operation with stellarium direct to PMC8, only via ASCOM hub or Poth.
4.  You may connect the Ipad to the wireless and it should control the mount.

5.  The firmware knows ASOM has priority.  EXplorestars can issue commands when ascom is in a state, such as tracking, that allows EXplorestars to do something.  

It should work well.

Wes.


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired

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