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Re: Explorestars app and Chromebook

Wes Mcdonald
 

Hi Robert.

Yes there are.  I haven't figured out how to use the knowledge base but Google something like Android explorers install and you will find it.  But here are a few tips as I recall.

1.  Load the app from the Android auto store.  Goes in and installs perfect.

2.  Find the database in the explore scientific web site.  Download it into your real computer.  Unzip it on your real computer

3.  Copy the unzip directory and all the sub directories onto a micro SD card.  I used a 32 gb card but a much smaller one will do.  I just had it.

4. Put the micro SD into the Android.  Boot explorestars app. Nirvana.

Wes

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:57 AM Robert Parks <dionyxian@...> wrote:
I pulled the trigger on that last night. Arriving tomorrow. Any detailed directions on Android install of the app and dbase available on the forum?

On Sep 13, 2018 9:53 AM, "Wes Mcdonald" <wesmcd6@...> wrote:
I can't help you with the Chromebook but just wanted to encourage you to bag it and get a tablet.  You can buy a used Samsung Tab A in 7 inches for 70$ or less.  It works great.  No issues at all. 7 inches is just about the perfect size too. Also the Android app is so much better than the windows version it ain't funny.  The interface is just so much better.  Search alone is worth it.  I think the most advanced Android version it can run is 5.1.1 which is enough.  I also loaded Stellarium and sky safari 5 which both rock on the tab a.  All free.  Also never had a WiFi disconnect issue....yet.  Jeery and I played extensively with this at the AHSP star party and I should note he uses a Tab 8 which in my view is not as handy as the 7, and the extra size is not needed for the interface.  It also coats 50$ more than the 7.  The 7 can be put in your back pocket.

The above is a bit stream of consciousness I know but I'm in a car using my phone and can't edit it, sorry.

One last thought that might apply and excuse me if this is obvious to you but did you unzip the database and install it on the memory card with the directory structure per the instructions?  Also perhaps there is a setting on the Chromebook to enable the card as an external drive?

Regards
Wes


Re: Explorestars app and Chromebook

Robert Parks
 

I pulled the trigger on that last night. Arriving tomorrow. Any detailed directions on Android install of the app and dbase available on the forum?

On Sep 13, 2018 9:53 AM, "Wes Mcdonald" <wesmcd6@...> wrote:
I can't help you with the Chromebook but just wanted to encourage you to bag it and get a tablet.  You can buy a used Samsung Tab A in 7 inches for 70$ or less.  It works great.  No issues at all. 7 inches is just about the perfect size too. Also the Android app is so much better than the windows version it ain't funny.  The interface is just so much better.  Search alone is worth it.  I think the most advanced Android version it can run is 5.1.1 which is enough.  I also loaded Stellarium and sky safari 5 which both rock on the tab a.  All free.  Also never had a WiFi disconnect issue....yet.  Jeery and I played extensively with this at the AHSP star party and I should note he uses a Tab 8 which in my view is not as handy as the 7, and the extra size is not needed for the interface.  It also coats 50$ more than the 7.  The 7 can be put in your back pocket.

The above is a bit stream of consciousness I know but I'm in a car using my phone and can't edit it, sorry.

One last thought that might apply and excuse me if this is obvious to you but did you unzip the database and install it on the memory card with the directory structure per the instructions?  Also perhaps there is a setting on the Chromebook to enable the card as an external drive?

Regards
Wes



Re: Explorestars app and Chromebook

Wes Mcdonald
 

I can't help you with the Chromebook but just wanted to encourage you to bag it and get a tablet.  You can buy a used Samsung Tab A in 7 inches for 70$ or less.  It works great.  No issues at all. 7 inches is just about the perfect size too. Also the Android app is so much better than the windows version it ain't funny.  The interface is just so much better.  Search alone is worth it.  I think the most advanced Android version it can run is 5.1.1 which is enough.  I also loaded Stellarium and sky safari 5 which both rock on the tab a.  All free.  Also never had a WiFi disconnect issue....yet.  Jeery and I played extensively with this at the AHSP star party and I should note he uses a Tab 8 which in my view is not as handy as the 7, and the extra size is not needed for the interface.  It also coats 50$ more than the 7.  The 7 can be put in your back pocket.

The above is a bit stream of consciousness I know but I'm in a car using my phone and can't edit it, sorry.

One last thought that might apply and excuse me if this is obvious to you but did you unzip the database and install it on the memory card with the directory structure per the instructions?  Also perhaps there is a setting on the Chromebook to enable the card as an external drive?

Regards
Wes


Latest version of the PMC-Eight ASCOM Driver - 06/28/2018

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 


Steve Siedentop just notified me that the link for the PMC-Eight driver provided on our website is the older version of the driver date 04/04/2018.  I need to update that file to the latest one that is posted in the files section on this forum. Here is the link to the file:

https://groups.io/g/ESPMC-Eight/files/ES_PMC8%20ASCOM%20Driver%20Setup_2018_06_28.zip

The latest driver is dated 06/28/2018

Please use this link until I can get the other file updated.

Thanks Steve for pointing this out.

Jerry Hubbell
Director Electrical Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811
www.explorescientificusa.com



Re: Broken Link

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

Hi Steve,

Thanks for identifying that.  There have been some recent changes to the website made without my knowledge. Here is the link to the page with our latest software downloads for everyone to use

https://explorescientificusa.com/pages/software-and-downloads-for-pmc-eight-system

I have sent an email to Bob Denny who manages the ascom-standards.org website to update the links to this location.I will let everyone know when it is correct.

Jerry Hubbell
Director Electrical Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811
www.explorescientificusa.com



Re: connecting to CdC

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

Thanks everyone for helping Larry out while I was MIA,  I returned back from the Almost Heaven Star Party on Monday evening and was busy yesterday taking care of some other things so I was away from my computer all day yesterday. I see that you have things working now Larry, but wanted to mention a couple of things that I have seen. It is possible to connect CdC directly to the PMC-Eight ASCOM driver as long as you have the 32-bit version of CdC. The 64-bit version of CdC is not compatible with the 32-bit version of the PMC-Eight ASCOM driver and will throw an exception when trying to connect, but I don't think it is the one you are seeing. I plan on recompiling the PMC-Eight ASCOM driver as a 64-bit driver, but in general, if you plan on connecting more than one client program such as CdC and SGP or other client at the same time, you need to use the POTH. Also, please note that the latest driver has a release date of 06/28/2018

Thanks

Jerry Hubbell
Director Electrical Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811
www.explorescientificusa.com



Re: Explorestars app and Chromebook

Steve Siedentop
 

You might be the first.  Following this...hopefully someone can chime in with some insight.

-Steve


Explorestars app and Chromebook

Robert Parks
 

Hello all.  

The app runs fine once I put my chromebook in developer mode to keep "the google" from blocking install.  However, I'm having a fire of a time getting the program to poll the database that I've loaded on to a micro SD card.  Anyone else trying to run the app on a Chromebook?

On a goof, I loaded it on an Amazon Kindle and the app runs there too.  Again, though, no joy in trying to get the app to locate the database loaded on to the micro SD card.

I'd prefer not to have to purchase a new android tablet or windows tablet to be able to use the GOTO functions of the device...

Scott the newbie


Re: connecting to CdC

Steve Siedentop
 

One more question...have you gone through the process (manually or using Chris Moses' application) to switch the PMC8 controller from WiFi mode to Serial mode?

Going out on a bit of a limb, but if it's still in WiFi mode and you're trying to connect to the serial port, that may explain the error. 

-Steve


Re: connecting to CdC

Larry White <p23lwhite@...>
 

Serial cable

 

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From: Steve Siedentop
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:40 PM
To: ESPMC-Eight@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] connecting to CdC

 

Back to the error that spawned your original question...

Are you connected to the PMC8 via WiFi when you're getting the ASCOM error?
Or are you connected with a serial cable?

-Steve

 


Re: connecting to CdC

Larry White
 

Thanks Steve,

POTH Scope-Dome hub was not in my ASCOM start-up path but I found it in explorer and dragged it to my desktop.  Now I'm back on familiar ground and have everything working again.

Thanks to all who took the time to help out.  It is much appreciated!

Larry


Re: connecting to CdC

Steve Siedentop
 

Back to the error that spawned your original question...

Are you connected to the PMC8 via WiFi when you're getting the ASCOM error?
Or are you connected with a serial cable?

-Steve


Re: connecting to CdC

Steve Siedentop
 

Hi Larry -

The name isn't particularly intuitive, but here's where it is in your start menu...



Click Setup...



Click Choose Scope


Choose the PMC8 Driver and click Properties


Configure the PMC8 driver, particularly site data...




-Steve


Re: connecting to CdC

 

Larry,

I'm on Win7, so you'll have to apply some poetic license to this for Win10, but...
I have an ASCOM icon on my lower task bar that starts POTH.  I can also get to it from the Start>ASCOM Platform 6 >Scope-Dome Hubs> POTH Scope-Dome Hub.

Click that icon, and the POTH applet appears.  It has buttons on it for Connect, Setup, etc., and indicates the status of the scope  

- Bob


Re: connecting to CdC

Larry White <p23lwhite@...>
 

Thanks Steve

 

Yes, both the ASCOM platform and the ESPMC8 driver are the latest versions.  Your flowchart is the way I understand how things work and the way I thought I had things configured.

 

I will have to wait until later this afternoon to post screen shots.  Looking forward to another clear night with relative good seeing.  Hope to get up and running before dark.

 

One question, at the risk of sounding like a complete dork, but I want to make sure I’m doing everything correctly.  When you say “Open POTH”  How exactly do you do that?

 

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From: Steve Siedentop
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:08 AM
To: ESPMC-Eight@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] connecting to CdC

 

Hi Larry -

I haven't seen that error before.  A couple of questions...

Are you using the latest version of the ASCOM platform (4.6) available here:  https://github.com/ASCOMInitiative/ASCOMPlatform/releases/download/Platform6.4Release/ASCOMPlatform64.exe

Also, are you using the latest version of the ES PMC8 driver available here:  https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0390/6029/files/ES_PMC8_Setup.exe?10705328785478189986

Screenshots of your process would be helpful if you can get them.

The way I connect to CdC:

Open POTH
Connect POTH to the PMC8
Open CdC
Connect CdC to POTH
Unpark scope in the POTH control window
Switch to CdC, select object and slew to object

 


Re: connecting to CdC

Larry White <p23lwhite@...>
 

Bob,

 

Thanks for the reply.  It is greatly appreciated!

 

Here in St Louis we’ve had  hot, sticky weather with crappy skies all summer so I’ve been working with my new tripod indoors all summer.  I had everything working (even had the Xbox controller working).  First chance I get to take the darn thing outside nothing wants to work.  All the cable connections are tight, good power, etc  I’ve made no changes to the ASCOM driver, CdC or ASCOMPAD

 

When I launch CdC and select connect telescope up pops a small window.  Poth Hub is the “telescope”  Click connect and up pops the error message mention below.

 

You say “Commnad ASCOM w.PMC8 driver to connect to the PMC8”.  Don’t want to sound like complete newbie, but to make sure I’m not missing something, how exactly is that done.  I’ve must have done it before cause everything was working while indoors.

 

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From: Robert Hoskin
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:56 AM
To: ESPMC-Eight@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] connecting to CdC

 

Larry,

They don't connect directly, you need ASCOM acting as a messaging hub between your PMC8 and (say) CdC. 

So...

Command ASCOM w/PMC8 driver to connect to the PMC8 first, via the button on the POTH panel.  You should then see the little POTH panel lit up and connected to the scope.  Don't be surprised if you have to command POTH to connect two or three times, before it works - that's my experience anyway (wired connection). 
This all assumes that your physical connection to the PMC8 (wifi or cable) is working as it should, and that the parameters in the driver are correctly set up.
 
Then tell CdC to connect to the POTH hub, (NOT the PMC8).  Should work fine.

Hope this helps...

- Bob



 

 


Re: connecting to CdC

Steve Siedentop
 

Hi Larry -

I haven't seen that error before.  A couple of questions...

Are you using the latest version of the ASCOM platform (4.6) available here:  https://github.com/ASCOMInitiative/ASCOMPlatform/releases/download/Platform6.4Release/ASCOMPlatform64.exe

Also, are you using the latest version of the ES PMC8 driver available here:  https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0390/6029/files/ES_PMC8_Setup.exe?10705328785478189986

Screenshots of your process would be helpful if you can get them.

The way I connect to CdC:

Open POTH
Connect POTH to the PMC8
Open CdC
Connect CdC to POTH
Unpark scope in the POTH control window
Switch to CdC, select object and slew to object


Re: connecting to CdC

 

Larry,

They don't connect directly, you need ASCOM acting as a messaging hub between your PMC8 and (say) CdC. 

So...

Command ASCOM w/PMC8 driver to connect to the PMC8 first, via the button on the POTH panel.  You should then see the little POTH panel lit up and connected to the scope.  Don't be surprised if you have to command POTH to connect two or three times, before it works - that's my experience anyway (wired connection). 
This all assumes that your physical connection to the PMC8 (wifi or cable) is working as it should, and that the parameters in the driver are correctly set up.
 
Then tell CdC to connect to the POTH hub, (NOT the PMC8).  Should work fine.

Hope this helps...

- Bob



 


Broken Link

Steve Siedentop
 

Hi Jerry -

The link from the ASCOM Drivers page referencing the PMC8 is broken:

https://ascom-standards.org/Downloads/ScopeDrivers.htm

Broken link:
https://www.explorescientific.com/pmc-eight/index.html

-Steve


connecting to CdC

Larry White <p23lwhite@...>
 
Edited

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong.  I'm trying to connect my EXOS2-GT to CdC and I keep getting the error message:

Objective variable or With block variable not set.  What does this mean and how do I fix it?

Thanks for help
Larry

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