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Re: Expected tracking times *Unguided #TECHNICAL #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

JB

If it don't work it's gonna be reverse pin out if the connector.....assuming all else is ok.  You'll need a null modem plug

Wes

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PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Expected tracking times *Unguided #TECHNICAL #EXOS2

JB1983
 

I'm gonna give it a whirl in about an hour and see if I can figure it out.   I'm willing to bet it's the cable.  Sounds like most people have issues with cable being the culprit more than anything.  I'll try deleting the drivers and re installing and see if I'm missing anything else 


Re: Serial-to-UBS adapters that work

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:48 PM, Wes Mcdonald wrote:
BUT it does not support RTS.  Jerry, is this an issue? 
The system requires the DTR line along with XMT, RECV, and GND. The DTR line is used for initialing the boot loader when updating the firmware. You can use that cable probably if you never want to update your firmware.
 
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Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Expected tracking times *Unguided #TECHNICAL #EXOS2

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:15 PM, JB1983 wrote:
I think I just realized that ascom wants 115200 and the default com port parameters default to 9600.  That could very well be the cause of the issue right there.
It doesn't matter what the default BAUD rate is set to on the port driver configuration, the ASCOM driver configures the connection to 115,200 BAUD prior to making the connection. My default is set to 9600 on the port driver also.
 
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www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Serial-to-UBS adapters that work

Wes Mcdonald
 

I have been using the PArallax serial converter and have recommended people just get it and be done.  Its drawback is that it is not packaged so you have to Macgyver something up.  But given other's experience I decided to try a packaged unit also.   I bought the Dtech 10 foot cable, DT-5031.  It does indeed connect and run the PMC-8 via serial and costs a whooping $15.  Comes packaged, and has three nice status lights in the serial connector.  BUT it does not support RTS.  Jerry, is this an issue?  I think it might be for this cable if one wants to program the PMC?

Wes.

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PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Wes Mcdonald
 

Paul

Hang on again.

Perhaps you can switch to TCP by using the ESY! Command.  This command seems to work.  Send it with your radio button set to udp., Which is what mode the iexos is in if Explorestars is working.  

0.  Make sure PC is on PMC8 net
1.  Boot config mgr
2 configure it by picking your mount
3 go to advanced tab
4.  Check UDP radio button
5. Send the ESGp0! To see if all are shaking hands in UDP mode
6 if good send the ESY! Command

This should put u into TCP mode.

Set the radio button to TCP.  Then send the ESGp0! Again.  See are you good.  If so u are in TCP.  Now ascom should work

Wes



--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Expected tracking times *Unguided #TECHNICAL #EXOS2

JB1983
 

Thanks Robert. You know what, I think I just realized that ascom wants 115200 and the default com port parameters default to 9600.  That could very well be the cause of the issue right there.

Other than the, my driver data looks identical. I'll make sure the rate is set properly tonight and see if it connects. If not, it could very well be the cable. I know that getting a cable with FTDI that actually works can be a hassle in itself.


Re: Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Wes Mcdonald
 

Paul....wait.

Turns out that config manager reports a fail when you try to query the comms method when no serial port is attached.  But if the status line at bottom of window shows wifi on PMC8 then you are connected.  You can see this by going to advanced tab and sending ESGp0! Command after checking the TCP comms method.

The problem is though that in the basic page you cannot switch to TCP because the danged app does not think you are connected since serial ain't hooked up.

So the answer remains you need to have the serial connected....at least until this bug is addressed.

Wes

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Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Wes Mcdonald
 

Paul

It is in files section of main.   It is under user contributed.  

As for needing a serial. Sadly it seems so.  I just tried it with no serial connection, just wifi and no soap.

Wes

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Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Paul Jenkins <urbanastronomer60@...>
 

Hi Guys
thanks for your help, I do appreciate it.  Is the configuration manager in the files section, do I need to plug in a usb cable to use config manager.
Than you


On 20 Jun 2019, at 16:24, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering <jrh@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:04 AM, Wes Mcdonald wrote:
5.  Not sure but I think you need to get into config manager and set the comm link to TCP.  You should do it at least to see if it changes behavior
Hi Wes,

I think you hit the nail on the head with the comment about selecting TCP. The iEXOS 100 does not provide a connection to TCP/IP and UDP/IP concurrently like the G11 and EXOS 2 because the ESP-WROOM-02 WiFi module does not support it like the Microchip RN-131 module does. I left that out of my video, so I need to go back and add that into it.

Great catch!

So Paul, you probably just need to use the PMC-Eight Configuration Manager to switch the protocol from UDP to TCP as per the instructions in the Configuration Manager.

Thanks
 
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Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!



Re: Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:04 AM, Wes Mcdonald wrote:
5.  Not sure but I think you need to get into config manager and set the comm link to TCP.  You should do it at least to see if it changes behavior
Hi Wes,

I think you hit the nail on the head with the comment about selecting TCP. The iEXOS 100 does not provide a connection to TCP/IP and UDP/IP concurrently like the G11 and EXOS 2
because the ESP-WROOM-02 WiFi module does not support it like the Microchip RN-131 module does. I left that out of my video, so I need to go back and add that into it.

Great catch!

So Paul, you probably just need to use the PMC-Eight Configuration Manager to switch the protocol from UDP to TCP as per the instructions in the Configuration Manager.

Thanks
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Expected tracking times *Unguided #TECHNICAL #EXOS2

 

Are the serial port speed, etc. params correct?

Here's a couple of screen shots from Device Manager to confirm.


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Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2-IMX224C
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Wes Mcdonald
 

Paul.  To review

1.  Unit works fine with Explorestars ...if so this checks the box for the mount wifi

2.  Ascom platform installed and runs all it's tests without error....if so this checks the box on the ascom platform

3.  Explorestars ascom driver loaded, is the 64/32 bit version....I think it is labeled "any"....if so that box is checked.

4.  Laptop connected to PMC8 before booting ascom

5.  Not sure but I think you need to get into config manager and set the comm link to TCP.  You should do it at least to see if it changes behavior

6.  Es ascom driver picked in poth

7.  Driver setup...enable wifi radio button picked? Mount type picked to be iexos 100?  

8.  Wireless address in driver set to ?...exos 2 is 198.168.47.1.  not sure what it needs in iexos

9.  Port number...54372. Again correct for exos2

10.  Wifi module in driver set to esp-vroom02?

11.  While I are at it set your site location in the driver

So with all if that done the thing should connect when you tell poth to do it.

Wes

--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Ascom Wi Fi #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Paul Jenkins <urbanastronomer60@...>
 

Hello all,
when I try to connect the ascom wireless (not hardwired)
and using Poth
I click on connect, the mount lights come on red/green, then nothing.
there is no data transferred.
I then get a error message every time
Error 80040407
get Ra motor position
any ideas please


Re: Expected tracking times *Unguided #TECHNICAL #EXOS2

JB1983
 
Edited

So I got my USB hub and serial cable in today and attempted to get things working.

Ascom worked great when using wifi to the module but I had major issues with serial method.

The drivers wouldnt take at first, I realized this when I see the USB com port sitting in other devices in device manager.  I downloaded the latest FTDI drivers and uploaded them manually and got them to work so both the com port and the USB bus converter and both running the latest drivers.

But when I run ascom connection manager and change the connection from wifi to serial, it times out on me and says timeout no received data.

I tried a bunch of stuff including changing com ports and still nothing. As I far as I can tell the drivers are installed correctly but it's not communicating with the pmc 8 module.

Any ideas?  The only other thing I noticed is there was another unknown device but it was an ethernet device and I managed to track down the Atheros drivers for it, I'm sure its unrelated to this issue.

Other than that, I'm stumped.  Ascom tries to connect and timeouts within a few seconds with no recieved data.


Re: New Video on How To Install and Configure the ASCOM Driver for the iEXOS 100 Mount #TECHNICAL #ExploreScientific #iEXOS-100

Paul Jenkins <urbanastronomer60@...>
 

Hi Wes,
Thought configuration manager and Tcp was for wired serial connection



On 19 Jun 2019, at 23:52, Wes Mcdonald <wesmcd6@...> wrote:

Paul:

Typos I believe:

"When I connect using POTH" -- right?
"I don't get any info like RA Dec on POTH --- right?

Dongle use.  Three times in and out.  That moved your wifi from default 8 to default 11.  This is where you should stay.  * is not a good place to be, as it incurs interference from foth channel 6 and 11.

You can run WiFiExplorer Lite on your PC to see how the Wifi environment looks.  But if your Explorestars is working you are good.  BTW you need to use the Configuration manager to set the ASCOM connection method to TCP for the IEXOS100.  I think.  Just push the button that looks right and it will tell you if it is.

Wes.


Wes.


--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: New Video on How To Install and Configure the ASCOM Driver for the iEXOS 100 Mount #TECHNICAL #ExploreScientific #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

Paul:

Typos I believe:

"When I connect using POTH" -- right?
"I don't get any info like RA Dec on POTH --- right?

Dongle use.  Three times in and out.  That moved your wifi from default 8 to default 11.  This is where you should stay.  * is not a good place to be, as it incurs interference from foth channel 6 and 11.

You can run WiFiExplorer Lite on your PC to see how the Wifi environment looks.  But if your Explorestars is working you are good.  BTW you need to use the Configuration manager to set the ASCOM connection method to TCP for the IEXOS100.  I think.  Just push the button that looks right and it will tell you if it is.

Wes.


Wes.


--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: New Video on How To Install and Configure the ASCOM Driver for the iEXOS 100 Mount #TECHNICAL #ExploreScientific #iEXOS-100

Paul Jenkins <urbanastronomer60@...>
 

Hi Jerry,
When I connect using both, I get this error message every time
Error 80040407
Get ra motor position
I don’t get any info  like Ra Dec on the path. 
I have also used the dongle 3 times tonight to see if it makes any difference.
I CAN get connected to explore stars by the way
cheers
Paul


On 19 Jun 2019, at 23:21, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering <jrh@...> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Yes, the green light is on as long as the PMC-Eight is receiving commands and communicating successfully on the iEXOS 100.
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Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!



Re: New Video on How To Install and Configure the ASCOM Driver for the iEXOS 100 Mount #TECHNICAL #ExploreScientific #iEXOS-100

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

Hi Paul,

Yes, the green light is on as long as the PMC-Eight is receiving commands and communicating successfully on the iEXOS 100.
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: New Video on How To Install and Configure the ASCOM Driver for the iEXOS 100 Mount #TECHNICAL #ExploreScientific #iEXOS-100

Paul Jenkins <urbanastronomer60@...>
 

Hi Jerry,
Thank you so much for the info, I will try what you suggest.
When I use explore stars with my iPad, the green light stays on, is this correct in that situation. I assume the green light is confirming connection .
Cheers
Paul


On 19 Jun 2019, at 21:59, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering <jrh@...> wrote:

Hi Paul,

With the wireless ASCOM driver configured as shown in the video, as you hit the connect button on the POTH and the green light comes on, do you see numbers show up on the POTH indicating the RA, DEC, ALT, AZ?  or does it stay blank?  If it just stays blank, then you are probably seeing the problem that Robert and Jeremy have. You should hit the connect button 3 times that will re-initialize the connection. You should see the data values show up as in the video on the POTH.

If that doesn't do it and all you see is blank on the POTH, then the data transfer is being interrupted somehow over the wireless connection and may be related to the local WiFi traffic. At this point, you should use your WiFi dongle to change the WiFi channel on the PMC-Eight using the procedure in this Knowledge Base article
https://explorescientificusa.com/pages/why-does-my-wifi-connection-keep-dropping-out

Note that when the PMC-Eight boots, such as when you apply power, there is a few second delay between the RED power light coming on and the GREEN processing light staying on a few seconds. This initial lighting of the GREEN LED is just a startup indication, until you have a data connection via wireless or wired, you will not see the GREEN LED stay on.
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


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