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Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Taro
 

Hi Jerry San

Thank you for understanding.
I am looking forward New adjustment adapter.

Thank you again for giving us your weekend time.

I love ES.

All the best.


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Living in  Pattaya Thailand
Scope: Celestron 6SE,WO Z61,SVBONY SV48
CCD: SONY Alfa7Sii,SONY QX1, PENTAX KP,ASI 178MC,ASI 120MC-S
          SAMSUNG SCB2000N
MOUNT: Celestorn SE+WEDGE,iEXOS-100
FILTER: HA,Oiii,OPTLONG L-PRO,OPTLONG L-eNhance Duo Band, Etc
SubLens: 2" Flattener, 2" 2XBarlow, 2" F/0.5 Reducer, SCT F/0.63 Reducer
ETC: GPS,StarSence


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:56 PM, Taro wrote:
But my point of view is not load capacity.
I (maybe not only me . many iEXOS-100 users) need only more useful azimuth adjuster.

Hi Taro,

I understand. I agree that it would be good to have an azimuth adjuster that would fit the original ST1 tripod. I think the decision to create the azimuth adjustment adapter to fit the ST2 and ST3 tripods was, as you said, to offer a possible mount capacity increase along with the precision azimuth adjustment. Initially offering the azimuth adjustment adapter for the ST1 tripod would not have been as useful to the most customers. Bob Hoskins actually has suggested that we look into creating an interface adapter to go between the ST1 tripod and the azimuth adjustment adapter so that you could put it on the ST1 tripod as you want. I will discuss this next week with our team  and see what we may be able to do in that regard. Bob also suggested that maybe a 3D printed version could be designed and made available. Mike Leemhuis is the man to do this work. 

Thanks

Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: PMC-8 ZERO Connectivity UDP, TCP, Serial #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

asanmax@...
 
Edited

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 07:38 AM, Naim Conrad Vilabrera wrote:
Prism v10
One thing I noticed right away is that in Hardware Setup window, Choose Telescope Mount, you need to choose POTH, NOT ES_PMC8 Telescope. This is what I choose in Cartes du Ciel.


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Taro
 

Jerry SAN
Thank you for answer to us.

I understand your explain.

But my point of view is not load capacity.
I (maybe not only me . many iEXOS-100 users) need only more useful azimuth adjuster.

As Wes said that when I decided to buy this mount, I accept it load capacity and very light system wedge.

You and your staff fixed load capacity issue very speedy for user.
I pay respect this .

And I want you think one more point about adjustment operation.

This is just my hoping.

All the best!!



--
Living in  Pattaya Thailand
Scope: Celestron 6SE,WO Z61,SVBONY SV48
CCD: SONY Alfa7Sii,SONY QX1, PENTAX KP,ASI 178MC,ASI 120MC-S
          SAMSUNG SCB2000N
MOUNT: Celestorn SE+WEDGE,iEXOS-100
FILTER: HA,Oiii,OPTLONG L-PRO,OPTLONG L-eNhance Duo Band, Etc
SubLens: 2" Flattener, 2" 2XBarlow, 2" F/0.5 Reducer, SCT F/0.63 Reducer
ETC: GPS,StarSence


Re: How To Do an ExploreStars Assisted "Physical Polar Alignment" As Long As You Can See Polaris #astrophotography #TECHNICAL

Wes Mcdonald
 

 Nice. Be interesting to see who actually tries this and how well it works for them.
Wes

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:43 PM Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering <jrh@...> wrote:
I received an email from Wes polar alignment. We have been working together as Wes has been digging in hard to understand the mathematics and code behind the ExploreStars 2 and 3-star "virtual" alignment routines. We have had some good discussions over the past few months about how to improve the "virtual" alignment provided by ExploreStars. Wes has made good progress on determining the source of errors in the mount and in creating the mount model. I will leave it to him at some point down the road to announce his findings and we will announce any modifications we will be making to the software if and when it comes about. 

In the meantime, back to the email Wes sent me, it contained a link to an easy, iterative method that anyone can use to "physically" polar align their PMC-Eight mount system assisted by the ExploreStars application. The only catch is that you need to be able to see Polaris. This method is independent of and does not use any imaging based alignment tools, all you need is a good eyepiece, preferably a cross-hair eyepiece such as the Meade 12 mm 

https://www.amazon.com/Meade-Instruments-12-Millimeter-Achromatic-Illuminated/dp/B0001DZAU6 .

Here is the link to the procedure:

http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/astro/iterating.pdf

Please take a look I would be interested in your thoughts on this procedure.

Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


How To Do an ExploreStars Assisted "Physical Polar Alignment" As Long As You Can See Polaris #astrophotography #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

I received an email from Wes about polar alignment. We have been working together as Wes has been digging in hard to understand the mathematics and code behind the ExploreStars 2 and 3-star "virtual" alignment routines. We have had some good discussions over the past few months about how to improve the "virtual" alignment provided by ExploreStars. Wes has made good progress on determining the source of errors in the mount and in creating the mount model. I will leave it to him at some point down the road to announce his findings and we will announce any modifications we will be making to the software if and when it comes about. 

In the meantime, back to the email Wes sent me, it contained a link to an easy, iterative method that anyone can use to "physically" polar align their PMC-Eight mount system assisted by the ExploreStars application. The only catch is that you need to be able to see Polaris. This method is independent of and does not use any imaging based alignment tools, all you need is a good eyepiece, preferably a cross-hair eyepiece such as the Meade 12 mm 

https://www.amazon.com/Meade-Instruments-12-Millimeter-Achromatic-Illuminated/dp/B0001DZAU6 .

Here is the link to the procedure:

http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/astro/iterating.pdf

Please take a look I would be interested in your thoughts on this procedure.

Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Counterweight vibrations

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM, Dan Ward wrote:
Intuition suggests a shorter balance column would be less likely to add unwanted vibration,
Hi Dan,

That's a great question. Even though I have not done any real "study" of the issue, as you say it makes sense that the shorter moment arm should reduce the amount of vibration, and that is all because of a problem we call "Flexure" The counterweight shaft of a mount has a bit of "springiness" to it that when hanging a heavy weight at the end will cause more flexure as it is cantilevered out from the mount. Also, when the counterweight shaft is near vertical or if you are "perfectly" balanced in RA then the mass at the end of the shaft acts as a pendulum and any lash in the gears would show an increased level of oscillation or vibration. This gear lash could be considered a form of flexure. So overall it is best probably to push enough weights to the top of the shaft to balance the load.
 
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Exos2 PMC8 5 Min Subs At F9

Darryl Ellis
 

I have gotten more than a few suggestions regarding guidescope size in relation to the imaging scope.  It really did make the difference.  With my former 130mm fl 30mm wide guidescope, I could barely get 1 min subs though I could get 5 min subs using it with an f5 refractor.  The upgrade in autoguide camera from the 5iic to the 5iiic290 seems to have helped as well.

The Exos2 PMC8 is holding it's own!

Thanks,

Darryl
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DHEllis59, Dover, DE
Explorer Scientific 80mm EDT
Astro Tech RC 6 w Pegasus Focus Cube,
Orion Starshoot II Pro Imager,
QHY 5 II Guide Camera and 30mm Guidescope,
Explorer Scientific EXOS GT 2 With PMC Eight Controller,
Orion XT8 with Nexus II DSC via Sky Safari Pro,
Celestron Luminous 31mm, Meade MWA 10mm, and 5mm EPs
Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars,
20/20 or better vision in both eyes due to recent cataract surgery!!!
"The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens" - Proverbs 3:19


Re: Counterweight vibrations

Dan Ward <danlward@...>
 

Has anyone done analysis on mount vibration from counterweights?  

Assuming one is well within the total weight capacity of a mount/head, would it be better to have two counterweights near the top of the counterweight shaft as opposed to one counterweight near the end of the shaft?  

Intuition suggests a shorter balance column would be less likely to add unwanted vibration, but I am curious as to whether anyone has actually studied this.
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Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Wes Mcdonald
 

Wanted to weigh in on the new ST3 etc.

Those who bought a lightweight, low end mount because it was lightweight and low end got a fine instrument.  The various posted astrophotographs and guiding results show this.  Those who purchased the heavier EXOS-2 also got a fine instrument with a heavier payload and of course less portability.

With the introduction of the new equipment options those with the iEXOS now have a means for growing their mount with their own personal growth or change in interests.   If I had an iEXOS here is how I would look at it:

1.  I have a light weight, grab and go. If I add guiding I have a lightweight astrophotography rig which can carry useful scope payloads

2.  If I invest $400 more I have almost as much payload as if I bought an EXOS2.  I have a total investment about the same as an EXOS2.  Yet I have now a heavy mount capable of great astrophotos with a largish payload, and I have a lightweight grab and go which can also be used for astrophotos.  

It is the best of both worlds for the same price as an EXOS2.  Sounds like a deal to me.

Those of you who have an iEXOS and just want to get those extra few pounds of payload should probably sell your iEXOS.  I expect they would return most of the original purchase price.  The difference of $50-$100 is a cheap date -- consider it college tuition as you used the iEXOS to learn about the hobby and also about where your interests were.  That's about 10 super macchiatos at Starbucks coffee.  HaHa.

In summary:  All in all I believe the offering provides a really nice upgrade path that gets you a mount that is configurable in either a lightweight mode for grab and go applications, or a heavier scope for use with heavier payloads.  And these come at the same aggregate cost as the other alternative, the iEXOS big brother the EXOS2.

Wes.

--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 08:39 AM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering wrote:
Here is an additional analysis which adds more counterweights into the mix as compared to the first table and chart I created. 
I added the incremental cost to upgrade and the incremental capacity for the upgrade also to the table 


 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Exos2 PMC8 5 Min Subs At F9

 

Darryl,
 
And so you should be... 1370mm FL !! 
I had wondered how a long-FL folded-optics scope of one kind or another would do on this mount.  Guess I have my answer.
 
I zoomed my browser up to 500% on your #033252 image, and the stars in the center of field still looked round to me. :-)
 
- Bob
 
--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2-IMX224C
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


PMC-8 ZERO Connectivity UDP, TCP, Serial #iEXOS-100 #TECHNICAL

Naim Conrad Vilabrera <naimcvilabrera94@...>
 

Good day or night to you all,

This is my first time using groups.io. I hope that I’m posting properly.

I'm having trouble connecting my ES iEXOS-100 PMC-8 to Prism v10. I purchased this mount to keep me occupied while I save money for a Losmandy G11 PMC-8. The iEXOS has PMC-8 and wireless ASCOM capabilities. I've downloaded the ASCOM platform and drivers. My camera connects to Prism. Prism recognizes my mount (see photo 1 and 2…link is below).  

I'm wirelessly connected to the mount via my computer. I get an error message (see photo 3) when I attempt to connect the mount. When I initialize, the green "processing" light on the mount activates but deactivates soon afterward. There seems to be communication at first, then the communication between PRISM and PMC-8 drops. 

The IP address is correct, The proper WiFi module is used. ASCOM diagnostic says everything is fine with the driver. 

Link to photos. https://www.cloudynights.com/gallery/album/11898-pmc-8-and-prism-v10-problems/

_________________________________
Troubleshoot 2 - Wes McDonald's Recommendations


Wes Speaking:

I am unfamiliar with the Prism but I have an idea.

 

 

1.  Internet connectivity is not available when you are connected to the PMC8.  I can't say if that upsets Prism, you should try to find out.

 

2.  Since you mentioned that you are connected to the PMC8 with explorestars,  the PMC8 is set for UDP communication.  I believe the most likely problem is that the ASCOM driver requires the PMC8 to be set for TCP.  This is done by use of the Configuration Manager utility.  The utility can be found at https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/files/User%20Contributions near the bottom of the list of files.  Load it.  When you run it make sure that before you do the laptop is connected wirelessly to the PMC8.  Be sure to get the settings on the Basic tab correct for the mount type.  The comm port should not be required.  The utility should find the mount and you will see a button to set the communications to TCP.  Once this is done, closethe CM and try to set things up again.  It should work.  Note that if you should wish to run explorestars later you will have to use the configuration manager to switch the mount back to UDP mode.  If this does not work then move on to the things to try below.

 

3. You could try the following:  Instead of connecting Prism directly to the ES ascom driver, instead run the ASCOM telescope-dome control hub, POTH.  From setup POTH to use the ASCOM ES driver.  In PRism choose POTH as the telescope.  Before you start, make sure the PMC8 is set to TCP by using the configuration manager as detailed in #2.

 

4.  After setting up Prism and POTH, tell POTH to connect to the mount.  If the POTH green light comes on you are there. BUT before you try to move the mount be sure to unpark it using the POTH unpark button.  If you leave it parked an error message will be displayed. 

None of the aforemention recommendations worked. My computer can connect to the mount's WiFi. That's as far as the communication goes. 

____________________________________
Troubleshoot 3: 

  1. Uninstall ASCOM ES_PMC8 Telescope Driver version 1.14, PMC-8 CM 1.0.3, and PMC8 (TW Erickson)
  2. Restart computer and install the aforementioned applications. Restart computer.
  3. Connect ASI Camera to PRISM. Connection successful. Disconnect. This was a test of PRISM’s connectivity.

 

4.      Open ASCOM Diagnostic application. Run Diagnostic. 0 fails. 1 exception.

5.      Choose Device (64-bit). Choose ES_PMC8 Telescope. Ensure mount Is iEXOS 100. Enable TCP/IP is enabled. WiFi module is ESP-WROOM2. IP address is not default value, but matches PMC-8 WiFi IPv4 DNS server. UDP/TCP Port is default value. Select King tracking rate.

6.      Device Connection Tester. Connect. Get Profile. COM Port <empty>. IP Address is correct. IP Port is default value. Lat/Long is correct. Wireless Enabled = True. Wireless Protocol = TCP. Exit ASCOM Diagnostic tool.

7.      Repeat Steps 4-6 while connected to PMC-8 WiFi. Results of test do not differ. Exit ASCOM Diagnostic tool.

 

8.      Remain connected to PMC-8 WiFi. open PMC-8 Configuration Manager. Connections Tab: Change Mount Type to iEXOS-100. Advanced Tab: Select TCP. NOTE: “Current Mount Connection Method = Unknown. Current WiFi Network = PMC-Eight-ABE7”

9.      Find Current Connection = “The mount does not appear to be connected. Please check your settings and network connection.”

10.   Find = “Could not automatically find the com port for PMC-8.”

11.   Close PMC-8 CM.

 

12.   Attempt to revert to UDP. Reopen PMC-8 CM. Select UDP. Close PMC-8 CM.

13.   Open ExploreStars. ExploreStars closes automatically (crashes?) after opening.

 

Notes: The PMC-8 controller makes a weird hissing noise when the green light is off. If I plug in my USB to mini-USB cable, the green light turns on momentarily and the hissing noise stops. Similar to the above issues, I cannot connect via a wired connection.


Also,

When I try to connect via PRISM, a new error message arises in addition to the prior error message.

New message: “Telescope ASCOM, general error into order loop, hardware link dropped [ES_PMC8 Telescope] -> Right Ascension”

Existing message: “Error during enabling link – Error while initializing telescope control: Unable to initialize telescope”

I think that I’m having a COM PORT issue. My computer is a Dell XPS 15 from August 2018. 
_________________________________________
Troubleshoot 4

I followed application note 3 (http://02d3287.netsolhost.com/pmc-eight/ESAN003_rev01.pdf).

Packet Sender does not show a response. The green LED does not activate.

 

I tried using putty, but when I open TELNET, “Network Error – Connection Refused”


How do I perform a factory reset? Should I perform a factory reset? 

I’ve been waiting half a year to go imaging for the first time. I saved for my scope, camera, and accessories. I’m still saving to purchase a G-11 PMC-8 (I bought the iEXOS 100 for the meantime), but I’m not having a good experience with PMC-8; however, the assistance of the Groups.Io community is great. Yesterday night and tonight are some of the best conditions for Andromeda and the Veil Nebula, my first two intended targets. 

 


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 09:18 AM, Harry wrote:
Either a credit or “discount “, for
those of us who are registered 100 owners,  or a credit if we return the original tripod?
Hi Harry,

We did discuss your suggestion, but we don't have a way to reprocess the returned tripods even if we were to give you a credit for it. So we are not currently providing any consideration for the original tripod. The iEXOS 100 mount system is packaged at our plant in China and we have no effective way of substituting the larger tripods in place of the original tripod either at a different price point. I can't imagine us even giving you a good return on your returned tripod due to our cost of handling and repurposing the ST1 tripods. 

What I can do is request that Customer Service maybe provide a discount code for your next purchase with Explore Scientific, perhaps 5% or even 10% off for the first 25 people that order a tripod and azimuth adjustment adapter.

Thanks
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Patrick Maher
 

The pricing seems reasonable to me so I have no complaints there.  The purpose of the iEXOS-100 was to provide a high quality mount that is lightweight and portable.  The iEXOS-100 in its original configuration is indeed high quality, lightweight and very portable at a very good price.  

For those of us who already own the EXOS-2, this adapter plate makes it easy to use the heavier tripod if we so desire.  I would never use this heavier tripod for portability or to be lightweight because then you lose the designed purpose of the iEXOS-100.  It is nice to have the adaptability though and the option to mix and match some of Explore Scientific's products.  

The fact is, if you want lightweight and portable, the way to go is the iEXOS-100 package as is sold.  That is what you are purchasing.  As if that is not enough to provide to customers, now customers have the option to increase the load capacity at the cost of mount weight and portability.  And, Explore Scientific actually offers more than one option to accomplish this!  

Even if you purchase the base package lightweight mount of other manufacturers, there are also add-ons to purchase and the cost can equal or exceed the costs we were seeing here at Explore Scientific and, to be honest, the iEXOS-100 is a more useful package at a competitive price in any of the configurations available today.

Additionally, the new customers of the iEXOS-100 have been asking for options such as these for months and Explore Scientific has made these new products available to us.  You can't ask for more than that.  Try succeeding at that with other manufacturers of astronomy gear.  

Thanks for all the hard work and for listening to your customer base, Jerry.  I certainly appreciate it.

Patrick

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Explore Scientific iEXOS-100 and EXOS-2GT (non-PMC)
Explore Scientific ED 102mm Refractor


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Harry
 

Hi Jerry,
Now that adequate tripods and the adapter are available, any thoughts of issuing some kind of credit for
those of us who have the original 100 tripod, and purchase an ST2 or ST3? Either a credit or “discount “, for
those of us who are registered 100 owners,  or a credit if we return the original tripod?
Thanks for your consideration.
Harry
--
Harry
Vero Beach, FL
Scopes: ES AR102,  Meade ETX 90 EC (Deforked)
Mounts: ES iExos 100-PMC Eight, ExploreStars IPAD & Fire HD8,
Oberwerk 5000 Tripod, Binos: Oberwerk 15x70, 8x40


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 08:39 AM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering wrote:
Let me know which scenarios make the most sense in terms of usability and flexibility.
I have attached the spreadsheet I used to create this information for you to play with as you like.
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

Here is an additional analysis which adds more counterweights into the mix as compared to the first table and chart I created. 

Let me know which scenarios make the most sense in terms of usability and flexibility.





Thanks

Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

I understand the questions about the pricing, but I have thought about what you can probably reasonably expect in terms of equipment capacity and price and I really don't think it is out of line with what you should expect to pay. I have created a table of configurations and a chart of price per capacity based on different configurations. 

DISCLAIMER: This is only my initial thinking based on the capacity testing we have done on the iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight mount and also customer experiences as reported here on the forum.
These numbers are preliminary and could significantly change in the future.

As you can see, The price point for each configuration and weight capacity increases linearly once you are past the entry level mount system as shipped today. Note, the highest price point is for the EXOS 2 configuration. There are significant improvements in the iEXOS line of mounts versus the original EXOS mounts which are significant benefits including 1) built in USB, 2) internal PMC-Eight controller, 3) internal cable for RA axis, 4) Same motor drive system as in EXOS 2 mount providing extra margin in terms of torque and in handling the higher loads. Finally 5) Being able to use the iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight in its most lightweight mode with the ST1 tripod provides an excellent "Grab and Go" mount system. This is an increasing requirement for a lot of our customers.

Also, even though the EXOS 2 mount comes with a polar scope to do polar alignments, most astrophotographers prefer not to use that and end up purchasing or using their camera systems to perform a polar alignment. 

PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE AND COMMENTS ON THIS.
Again, this is a preliminary look at projected weight capacity for the iEXOS 100.





Thanks!

Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: ST2 and ST3 Tripods Now Available for iEXOS 100 users #iEXOS-100 #ExploreScientific

Taro
 
Edited

Yes JR

I asked to ES support by chat
And got same answer. And No any set deal.
.
I think same as you.
Too much

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Scope: Celestron 6SE,WO Z61,SVBONY SV48
CCD: SONY Alfa7Sii,SONY QX1, PENTAX KP,ASI 178MC,ASI 120MC-S
          SAMSUNG SCB2000N
MOUNT: Celestorn SE+WEDGE,iEXOS-100
FILTER: HA,Oiii,OPTLONG L-PRO,OPTLONG L-eNhance Duo Band, Etc
SubLens: 2" Flattener, 2" 2XBarlow, 2" F/0.5 Reducer, SCT F/0.63 Reducer
ETC: GPS,StarSence

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