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Re: #astrophotography #goto #iexos-100 #iEXOS-100 #astrophotography #goto

Trav <eyeseayou21970@...>
 

Hi
Can any of you tell your experience with images of Venus and look at attached photo with some tips?


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It should come as no surprise that I have some contrary opinions.  :-))
 
So...I went back to the ES product pages to look for the manuals...
 
I was only able to find the manual for the iExos-100.  It was under the Software tab, and I thought it was very well done. Useful both to someone doing a presales evaluation, as well as a new owner.  
 
My first observation on all this is that new owners should read their manual before asking support questions, because it does a good job of answering a number of questions, and even if it doesn't answer their question directly, the orientation that it provides will help them do a better job of framing their support question when posting.  IMO, new members should be REMINDED to read their manual before posting.
 
I was NOT able to find manual links for either the EXOS2 or Losmandy PMC8 manuals on the product pages.  IMO, this should be fixed.  
 
I DID eventually find the pdf manual for my EXOS2, over on the ES 'getting started' pages.  It was labelled as:  "iEXOS 100 PMC PMC-Eight User manual".  This should be fixed, as well... :-)

The 'knowledge base' articles that supplement the manual are only findable after patient drilling.  IMO, the link to: 
https://explorescientificusa.com/pages/explore-scientific-knowledge-base-and-faqs
should be lifted up and made more prominent.

As to Youtubes, IMO, those are overrated.  Short, well-edited videos focused on answering one well-defined question are very useful, no question.  
But... longer videos attempting to discuss broad topics invite a click-away, just as soon as the viewer gives up hope that their specific question will eventually be answered.  My own attention span has been degraded to the point where the presenter in the video has only 2 or 3 minutes to gain my trust that my time will be well spent.  Not many do, but then, that's me.
 
HTH...
 
- Bob
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: #astrophotography #goto #iexos-100 #iEXOS-100 #astrophotography #goto

Daniel Burdziak
 

It’s the Canon 75-300mm kit lens, and it was at 300mm. I can get great untracked photos with it, but I tried it at 30”, 20”, and15” on the iexos-100 and got nothing but tails/trails. It was like the stars were moving (obviously), but the tracker wasn’t moving/tracking.


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George Fargone
 

Yes, this would be extremely useful for the iExos-100. At the price point offered by ES (which is awesome) likely 90% of users will be completely new to automated tracking mounts, or astronomy/telescopes all together. A few might get it for its portability. Although after upgrading the tripod and azimuth adjuster both the weight and cost advantages greatly diminish, but it still gives the option of a low entry point. 




On Saturday, May 9, 2020, 06:59, brian skinner <brianjimskinner@...> wrote:

Hi everybody, I basically agree with Mathew. When I first bought my iEXOS 100, the only video walk through (that I could find anyway) from the ES site was a fairly limited windows based tutorial. What I think would be very useful to absolute beginners at least is a slow step by step tutorial for ideally both Android and Windows platforms, all the way from mechanical set up through to final tracking of the target.

Additional videos covering guiding, which is an additional subject in its own right I would suggest would also be very useful.

The only comment regarding the existing manual (it may have been updated by now) is that it pictorial showed an earlier version of the controller, and not the newer version.

I do also think all at ES are excellent in being very forthcoming with helps and tips and I am sure the majority of us customers also are very appreciative of the e.mail forums that have been set up.

Thankyou and kind regards, Brian


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brian skinner
 

Hi everybody, I basically agree with Mathew. When I first bought my iEXOS 100, the only video walk through (that I could find anyway) from the ES site was a fairly limited windows based tutorial. What I think would be very useful to absolute beginners at least is a slow step by step tutorial for ideally both Android and Windows platforms, all the way from mechanical set up through to final tracking of the target.

Additional videos covering guiding, which is an additional subject in its own right I would suggest would also be very useful.

The only comment regarding the existing manual (it may have been updated by now) is that it pictorial showed an earlier version of the controller, and not the newer version.

I do also think all at ES are excellent in being very forthcoming with helps and tips and I am sure the majority of us customers also are very appreciative of the e.mail forums that have been set up.

Thankyou and kind regards, Brian


Re: #astrophotography #goto #iexos-100 #iEXOS-100 #astrophotography #goto

Chris Tardif
 

What was the focal length of the lens and if it was a telephoto lens, what was it set to?

What was the exposure time?

Chris

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Mounts: Explore Scientific IEXOS-100 w Celestron CG5 tripod, iOptron CEM 40
Scopes: Explore Scientific FCD-100 ED-102CF, Various Canon lenses, ZWO mini-guidescope, StarField 60mm guide-scope.
CameraASI120MM Mini (mono), Altair GPCAM 130
Control PC: Intel NUC
Loc: 44 -79


Re: #astrophotography #goto #iexos-100 #iEXOS-100 #astrophotography #goto

jrichard333 <jrichard333@hotmail.com>
 

Good day Daniel, 


If you are using a telephoto lens make sure you do not have image stabilization-Canon, or optical stabilization-sigma turned on.


JR




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] #astrophotography #goto #iexos-100
From: "Daniel Burdziak via groups.io"
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io
CC:

Welp took it back out tonight, and followed your steps.

I was able to 3-star align, and get it to slew from one object to another, and then back to the first. However, it wasn't tracking. I would take a photo, and it was just trails. This is what I did:

Slew to object -> Goto -> Pushed "Up" for just a second to get it to switch to "Tr"


Re: #astrophotography #goto #iexos-100 #iEXOS-100 #astrophotography #goto

Daniel Burdziak
 

Welp took it back out tonight, and followed your steps.

I was able to 3-star align, and get it to slew from one object to another, and then back to the first. However, it wasn't tracking. I would take a photo, and it was just trails. This is what I did:

Slew to object -> Goto -> Pushed "Up" for just a second to get it to switch to "Tr"


Re: Trouble setting up Exos 2 mount #EXOS2 #ExploreStars #ASCOM

Travis
 

That’s reassuring to hear while I wait for it to arrive!
I think at some point I put it into serial mode so I can’t use it on wifi for the time being but will update once it arrives. Thanks Bill!

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM <wcblack1020@...> wrote:
Travis,
Just to confirm, I had essentially this same issue with a Prolific RS232 adapter. Using a new adapter with the ftdi chipset solved the problem for me.
While I was waiting for the ftdi adapter, I was able to use the mount over wifi, but only with the RS232 cable disconnected.
Something with the prolific chipset (DTR maybe) kept re-initializing the controller and preparing the propeller for programming just by having it connected. The prolific driver had multiple manual settings (like reverse DTR or disable DTR, etc...), but changing those had no effect.
--

Bill
Location: Dallas, GA
Scopes:
 Celestron C8, AstroTech 80mm APO

Mounts: EXOS II PMC-Eight, LXD75

Cameras: ZWO ASI294MCPro, ASI385

--
Travis Hale-Vokey

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Mount: EXOS2-GT
Tablet: Microsoft Surface Pro
Camera: Canon sl2 dslr


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Doug Doonan
 

HI,
The thing that really had me going nuts during the set up of my mount PMC-8 was it said to put the data base for ExploreStars in "your" picture file. I have lots of picture files. If there was a path showing where it should go it would have been easy. Say like this: c:\mycomp\pictures\explorestars. In other words right  up on top. One of your techs straightened me out on this. Thanks.
FYI
Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific <jrh@...>
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io
Sent: Fri, May 8, 2020 11:05 am
Subject: [ESPMC-Eight] User Manual Poll #poll

[Edited Message Follows]
A poll has been updated:
We at Explore Scientific always value our customer's feedback, and so I want to ask you about your experience with our user manuals.

Question: What do you not like about the Explore Scientific user manuals?

Please respond and comment on this thread with additional information you may want to share. 

Please choose all that apply.
1. I can't find it on your website
2. I can’t understand it
3. It didn’t provide the information I was looking for
4. I couldn’t find the information I was looking for
5. It didn’t provide enough pictures
6. It’s too technical
7. It provided too much detail, it confused me
8. It didn’t come with the product
9. It didn’t explain how to use the product
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Chris Bourque
 

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 01:06 PM, Matthew Krauft wrote:
I have a suggestion as someone new to this, but I think I could also speak for the thousands, or maybe tens of thousands of other individuals in my shoes who are also new at this due to being stuck at home during this trying time. I think ES should be cranking out tutorial videos on YouTube covering all aspects of astro for beginners
 
100% agree!! ES has such a wealth of knowledge, and an eagerness to help! YouTube has become the defacto standard for so many types of knowledge sharing, this would be an excellent venue to start a learning and tutorial series. Its a lot of work, for sure. But would really elevate the effectiveness of info dissemination 10-fold. 


Re: Trouble setting up Exos 2 mount #EXOS2 #ExploreStars #ASCOM

Bill Black
 

Travis,
Just to confirm, I had essentially this same issue with a Prolific RS232 adapter. Using a new adapter with the ftdi chipset solved the problem for me.
While I was waiting for the ftdi adapter, I was able to use the mount over wifi, but only with the RS232 cable disconnected.
Something with the prolific chipset (DTR maybe) kept re-initializing the controller and preparing the propeller for programming just by having it connected. The prolific driver had multiple manual settings (like reverse DTR or disable DTR, etc...), but changing those had no effect.
--

Bill
Location: Dallas, GA
Scopes:
 Celestron C8, AstroTech 80mm APO

Mounts: EXOS II PMC-Eight, LXD75

Cameras: ZWO ASI294MCPro, ASI385


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Matthew Krauft
 

Good morning. I’d like to preface this reply by saying everyone at Explore Science have been wonderful in answering any and all questions I have. I can’t say enough about the staff there. 

As someone new to astrophotography, I’m realizing there is a tremendous learning curve, and I’ve had to stop myself from buying my way out of some problems I come across. I have a suggestion as someone new to this, but I think I could also speak for the thousands, or maybe tens of thousands of other individuals in my shoes who are also new at this due to being stuck at home during this trying time. I think ES should be cranking out tutorial videos on YouTube covering all aspects of astro for beginners With ES equipment. Ranging from mount set up, PA, star alignment, ASCOM, guiding, image acquisition, needed accessories,  etc. I’ve seen a couple youtubers take advantage of this during this time, but not anything from any of the major brands. I’m guessing most people in this hobby are men, and men are typically visual learners. I’m also guessing here, but I’m most beginners to this hobby are probably older and may not have the computer skills to enjoy this hobby.  To me it’s a win/win for everybody. 

Thanks again for putting customers first. Wanting feedback is a testament to that. 

Just my two cents. 

-Matt

On May 8, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering <jrh@...> wrote:



A new poll has been created:

We at Explore Scientific always value our customer's feedback, and so I want to ask you about your experience with our user manuals.

Question: What do you not like about the Explore Scientific user manuals?

Please respond and comment on this thread with additional information you may want to share. 

1. I can't find it on your website
2. I can’t understand it
3. It didn’t provide the information I was looking for
4. I couldn’t find the information I was looking for
5. It didn’t provide enough pictures
6. It’s too technical
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Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


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Question: What do you not like about the Explore Scientific user manuals?

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Re: EXPLORE SCIENTIFIC - Updated version of the ANDROID ExploreStars Application! #ExploreScientific #ExploreStars

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

Hi Joe, please see my responses in RED

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 08:55 PM, Joe Izen wrote:

I'm trying to see whether I have the latest version on my FireOS tablet I have 1.9.20051.494 installed.  How do I learn what is the latest version? Should I just assume that if GooglePlay tells me an app is already installed, it is the latest version? The version in Jerry's post seems to be dated.
Yes, the Google Play Store will correctly detect which version you have an tell you if there is an upgrade available. No need worry about that

I get a message to update my DB when I launch ExploreStars on my FireOS tablet. I find:
DB Ver: 0.0 [85643].  FW Ver:1.00 installed on my FireOD table.

       Where does it tell you to update your DB? You should go here to get the latest DB for the Android ExploreStars app: https://explorescientificusa.com/pages/android-os-download

I know these are over a year old, so I'm pretty sure they are long in the tooth, but how does one learn the latest versions?

All the information about the PMC-Eight is on our website as always, You should always go there for the latest downloads

I recently installed GooglePlay on my FireOS tablet, so I think can update through the Android store, but I recall the DB is tricky. I checked ExploreStars.com. The DB install video is hopelessly Microsoft tablet-centric, and the page doesn't render fully with my Mac's Safari browser.

The ExploreStars.com webpage is out of date, always go to our main website at www.explorescientificusa.com to get the latest  version of our downloads.  We will correct the ExploreStars.com website soon.

I recall needing to be coached through the DB initial install, and that I couldn't use my own tablet to download the DB to the SD card which is a requirement for design reasons I still can't fathom.

After switching to Chrome, I found http://02d3287.netsolhost.com/pmc-eight/Android.html

but the instructions on this page are also confusing. In particular, to install an update (not clear whether it is a DB or app update), it would have me jump to step 5 on my Android browser (so I can't just download an updated app with GooglePlay???). But Step 1 iss the DB download step, and I think I had to do the download and unzip the first time on a PC. I am very confused.

Again, please go to our main PMC-Eight downloads page on our main website, we will correct these old outdated links. Our forum Main group front page has instructions on where you should go also. You do not need to do any extensive search on the Internet to find our downloads.

I would very much appreciate blow-by-blow instructions for updating the app and the DB on FireOS. I suggest that since download and install instructions for Microsoft tablets are give on the explore stars.com home page, this would be the right location for app and DB upgrade instructions for ALL platforms, PC, Android, and iOS. For now, I'd be grateful if a clarification could  be posted to this thread. Kent is always helpful, but I hate to pester him on the phone for info that should be documented for everyone.

There are instructions on our download page for the Android ExploreStars that apply equally to the FireOS. We already have a page for all platforms on our main website.

To the extend that ExploreStars and PMC-8 mounts handshake with ASCOM drivers that need to be updates, it would be helpful if those instructions could be documented too.
The PMC-EIght ASCOM driver has nothing to do with the ExploreStars application and vice versa. The ExploreStars application is wireless only, and the ASCOM driver communicates over Serial or WiFi. The PMC-Eight ASCOM driver is only applicable to Windows since the ASCOM platform is only on the Windows Platform. ExploreStars is available for Windows, Android, and iPadOS at this time.

I am planning to update my iEXOS-100 PMC8 firmware. I think the most current upgrade instructions are in this threads:

https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/topic/35951559?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,%23FIRMWARE,20,2,0,35951559,ct=1&ct=1

Version check: https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/topic/71858890?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,%23FIRMWARE,20,2,0,71858890,ct=1&ct=1

Is this information still current?  Can I break anything if I update the firmware and/or the ExploreStars app, but not the other? Any ASCOM gotchas?

Instructions to download and install firmware updates on on the PMC-Eight system downloads page: https://explorescientificusa.com/pages/software-and-downloads-for-pmc-eight-system

Are there any developments on an iOS version for iPhones. There are some pretty big iPhone screens these days. It would be most convenient to use my iPhone as a backup for my Fire tablet.

We are currently working on new versions of ExploreStars that we will announce at the appropriate time.
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Trouble with M2.5 x 20 screws installing Mount Adapter Plate for Polar Finderscope EXOSPF #iEXOS-100 #polaralignment

Pavel
 

Yes, that is obviously the meaning of the nuts. Otherwise I would probably strip the threads. The screws are just too long.

Is there no explanation for the marking in the reticle available? The marking for the Southern Hemisphere is quite self-explanatory - there are clearly marked crosses for "σ Oct" and "χ Oct". But for the Northern Hemisphere, there are just three lines with gaps for both "δ Umi" and "51 Cep" (probably "OV Ceph"), no crosses. (Actually, no full cross for Polaris either.) See the first attached picture.

I also wonder about the role of the rubber washer/gasket that came with the polar scope. The only place I can imagine it could meaningfully fit would be to fill the gap between the bracket and the pivot collar for collimation (see the second attached picture). Is it possible that someone "forgot" to pull it there while assembling the scope? Considering the fact that the scope came mounted "backwards" to the mount adapter, I am not sure if the person assembling the whole thing was well conscious about the proper state of things. Of course, I may just as well ask Bresser, as you suggest, but I was hoping to get some explanation faster from someone here, as the subject has just been opened.

 


Re: EXPLORE SCIENTIFIC - Updated version of the ANDROID ExploreStars Application! #ExploreScientific #ExploreStars

Joe Izen
 

I'm trying to see whether I have the latest version on my FireOS tablet I have 1.9.20051.494 installed.  How do I learn what is the latest version? Should I just assume that if GooglePlay tells me an app is already installed, it is the latest version? The version in Jerry's post seems to be dated.

I get a message to update my DB when I launch ExploreStars on my FireOS tablet. I find:
DB Ver: 0.0 [85643].  FW Ver:1.00 installed on my FireOD table.

I know these are over a year old, so I'm pretty sure they are long in the tooth, but how does one learn the latest versions?


I recently installed GooglePlay on my FireOS tablet, so I think can update through the Android store, but I recall the DB is tricky. I checked ExploreStars.com. The DB install video is hopelessly Microsoft tablet-centric, and the page doesn't render fully with my Mac's Safari browser.

I recall needing to be coached through the DB initial install, and that I couldn't use my own tablet to download the DB to the SD card which is a requirement for design reasons I still can't fathom.

After switching to Chrome, I found http://02d3287.netsolhost.com/pmc-eight/Android.html

but the instructions on this page are also confusing. In particular, to install an update (not clear whether it is a DB or app update), it would have me jump to step 5 on my Android browser (so I can't just download an updated app with GooglePlay???). But Step 1 iss the DB download step, and I think I had to do the download and unzip the first time on a PC. I am very confused.

I would very much appreciate blow-by-blow instructions for updating the app and the DB on FireOS. I suggest that since download and install instructions for Microsoft tablets are give on the explore stars.com home page, this would be the right location for app and DB upgrade instructions for ALL platforms, PC, Android, and iOS. For now, I'd be grateful if a clarification could  be posted to this thread. Kent is always helpful, but I hate to pester him on the phone for info that should be documented for everyone.

To the extend that ExploreStars and PMC-8 mounts handshake with ASCOM drivers that need to be updates, it would be helpful if those instructions could be documented too.

I am planning to update my iEXOS-100 PMC8 firmware. I think the most current upgrade instructions are in this threads:

https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/topic/35951559?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,%23FIRMWARE,20,2,0,35951559,ct=1&ct=1

Version check: https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/topic/71858890?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,%23FIRMWARE,20,2,0,71858890,ct=1&ct=1

Is this information still current?  Can I break anything if I update the firmware and/or the ExploreStars app, but not the other? Any ASCOM gotchas?

Are there any developments on an iOS version for iPhones. There are some pretty big iPhone screens these days. It would be most convenient to use my iPhone as a backup for my Fire tablet.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 


Re: Faulty iEXOS 100?

James Ball
 

Correct, not arrows on the iEXOS-100.  I made some using toothpicks, taping them to the separate parts so they span the silver spacer making it easier to align.  There is a procedure listed in the forum here somewhere that explains a way to use a simple bullet level to find exact polar home and works well.
--
James Ball
Dawson Springs, Ky
Mounts: iEXOS-100
Scopes: Meade ETX90RA(deforked now) Sky Watcher 150MCT
Camera: ZWO ASI 120MC-S
Software: Explore Stars Android, ASCOM, Stellarium Scope, Stellarium, AS!3, SharpCap, RegiStax6.


Re: Exos2gt balancing weights

Kevin Rea <reakevinscott@...>
 

Ok.. thanks.

Kevin


Re: Noob question #iEXOS-100 #alignment

luketsanders@...
 

Hi,

1) i’m new to the mount too, but believe I’m right in saying that once you have aligned press SYNC first and then Enter. 


2) Select an object and press ‘Slew to object’ and the screen will change to the detail page for that object, now press GOTO and you should be in business.

Someone more experienced will probably correct everything I’ve just said, but this’ll give you something to do in the meantime 😂😂

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