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Re: #iexos-100 with Starry Night / Mac OS #iEXOS-100

Chris Tardif
 

No not Mac....just windows (4ever)
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Mounts: Explore Scientific IEXOS-100 w Celestron CG5 tripod, iOptron CEM 40
Scopes: Explore Scientific FCD-100 ED-102CF, Various Canon lenses, ZWO mini-guidescope, StarField 60mm guide-scope.
CameraASI120MM Mini (mono), Altair GPCAM 130
Control PC: Intel NUC
Loc: 44 -79


Re: Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

Darryl Ellis
 

That does help Robert.  I appreciate it.

So now I won't feel guilty when I invest in yet another device for my AP setup, lol. 

Thanks,

Darryl
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DHEllis59, Dover, DE

Astro Tech RC 6 w Pegasus Focus Cube and QHY10 OSC Camera
Orion ST 80 Guidescope and QHY 5 III 290c Guide Camera 
Explorer Scientific EXOS GT 2 With PMC Eight Controller,
ES 16" Truss Tube Dobsonian and Orion XT8 with Nexus II DSC via Sky Safari Pro,
Celestron Luminous 31mm, Meade MWA 21mm, 15mm, 10mm, and 5mm EPs
Celestron Skymaster 15x70
and 15x25 binoculars
20/20 or better vision in both eyes due to recent cataract surgery!!!
"The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens" - Proverbs 3:19


Re: Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

Darryl Ellis
 

Wow, that looks the business Jennifer.  Love the dual monitor setup as well.

Yeah, I bought a mini computer off of Amazon which worked well.  It had a defective power connection so I returned it.  I plan on replacing it at some point, but got distracted and ended up buying a new to me camera.

I'll have to look into the Optiplex.

Thanks,

Darryl
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DHEllis59, Dover, DE

Astro Tech RC 6 w Pegasus Focus Cube and QHY10 OSC Camera
Orion ST 80 Guidescope and QHY 5 III 290c Guide Camera 
Explorer Scientific EXOS GT 2 With PMC Eight Controller,
ES 16" Truss Tube Dobsonian and Orion XT8 with Nexus II DSC via Sky Safari Pro,
Celestron Luminous 31mm, Meade MWA 21mm, 15mm, 10mm, and 5mm EPs
Celestron Skymaster 15x70
and 15x25 binoculars
20/20 or better vision in both eyes due to recent cataract surgery!!!
"The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens" - Proverbs 3:19


Re: ASCOM Freezing iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight

jrichard333 <jrichard333@hotmail.com>
 

Good day ToddB,

 

A couple of questions/ suggestions:

1.       Try running POTH first before starting other applications

For the most part, only one connection at a time through POTH.  I run a different setup than you.

POTH, Stellarium Scope, Stellarium, and APT.   When I have POTH connected and APT, I can go back

and forth with no issues, when Stellarium scope is active, on the third exchange, POTH crashes.

2.       Have you upgraded your mount to the latest firmware?

3.       Check and measure your battery voltage to make sure it is above 10.8 volts DC at the lowest.

4.       If using your PC, are you running these apps as an Administrator?

5.       Do you have enough RAM or hard drive space?

6.       Have you downloaded all of the updates for your computer?

 

ExploreStars App:

1.       How much free space do you have available?

2.       How many other apps are running in the background?

3.       The only issue I have with the Explorestars app is that “9” key.  Sometimes it performs an electronic stick

and I have to click it again to get it to stop slewing.

 

Electronic focuser:

1.       What software are you using and are you running it as an Administrator?

2.       Have you tried running it in compatibility mode?

 

I am thinking about deigning/ building my own electronic focuser for my Maksutov.

 

I hope this helps.

 

JR

From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io [mailto:MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io] On Behalf Of ToddB
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 5:28 PM
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] ASCOM Freezing iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight

 

Thanks, Lloyd.
I switched back to ASCOM 6.4, and its a little better, but barely.

So, here are my steps:

1. Open Carte du Ciel, and hit Connect. This starts POTH automatically. (So, I have POTH connected to the PMC8 driver, and Carte du Ciel connected to POTH.)
2. Then I open the ASI imaging software.

That's basically it.

If I need to focus, I have to disconnect the mount from POTH, otherwise the focus software immediately causes it to crash. So, I'll focus, then close that software, then connect to POTH via Carte du Ciel.

I had the thought today that if the focus software causes it to crash, maybe the imaging software also makes it unstable. If I can get out tonight, I'll try FireCapture.

I have to vent for a minute. I've been trying to fix this for months...ever since I got the mount. Even ExploreStars doesn't run all that stable. More than half the time that I try to do a star alignment, it crashes. Sometimes its in the middle of a slew when it crashes, and the slew doesn't stop in that case. I have had to start my nights over several times a night every single night. I'm pretty close to calling it quits.

I sincerely appreciate the help.


Re: ASCOM Freezing iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight

ToddB
 

Thanks, Lloyd.
I switched back to ASCOM 6.4, and its a little better, but barely.

So, here are my steps:

1. Open Carte du Ciel, and hit Connect. This starts POTH automatically. (So, I have POTH connected to the PMC8 driver, and Carte du Ciel connected to POTH.)
2. Then I open the ASI imaging software.

That's basically it.

If I need to focus, I have to disconnect the mount from POTH, otherwise the focus software immediately causes it to crash. So, I'll focus, then close that software, then connect to POTH via Carte du Ciel.

I had the thought today that if the focus software causes it to crash, maybe the imaging software also makes it unstable. If I can get out tonight, I'll try FireCapture.

I have to vent for a minute. I've been trying to fix this for months...ever since I got the mount. Even ExploreStars doesn't run all that stable. More than half the time that I try to do a star alignment, it crashes. Sometimes its in the middle of a slew when it crashes, and the slew doesn't stop in that case. I have had to start my nights over several times a night every single night. I'm pretty close to calling it quits.

I sincerely appreciate the help.


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

zeccax@...
 

Hi Jerry,

Thanks again for your time. Today the new cable arrived. I'm at work at the moment but I will try to connect to it when I'll be home before doing anything else.
I will try your procedure if the serial connection can't do the trick.
I have read about the reset hardware in the chipset manual using the gpio9 pin and I will use this as last if nothing works. 

I'll keep you updated. 

Kind regards, 

Filippo 


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

zeccax@...
 
Edited

Hi Jerry, 

Yes I know, that's why I said my serial wasn't working and then I just tried with WiFi before doing a factory reset hoping it would had give me WiFi connectivity back. 

Now, knowing that I made a factory reset after switching to serial, is that the reason I can't see the internal rn131 ssid?
Do a good serial cable going to work to connect to it and set the Es values back?

Edit: sorry groups just went into maintainence and I missed your previous post 


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:28 PM, <zeccax@...> wrote:
Since i couldn't connect INDI drivers to use the mount anymore with the wifi, and the serial cable wasn't working I tried to revert it in WiFi doing the same procedure since i could still see the SSID of the PMC-Eight and i could connect with putty.
The *HELLO* appeared but the "###" command wasn't responding so i couldn't revert to WiFi in the same way using the ESX! command.
HI Filippo,

I wanted to say here based on your comment above is that the ESX! command must be issued on the CURRENT communications channel to toggle back to the alternate channel. In this case, you had successfully switched from "wireless": to "serial" using the ESX! command on the "wireless" channel. To get back you would have simply connected to the "serial" channel with the terminal program on the com port and issued the ESX! command again to switch back to the "wireless" channel.
 
 
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Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:28 PM, <zeccax@...> wrote:
I rebooted the device and now I can't see the internal RN-131 SSID in the wireless connections list. I can't connect to it and perform your procedure to set the values.
Hi Filippo,

I have a procedure to manually reset the RN-131 module back to the factory defaults again, using the hardware GPIO9 pin (as discussed in the Microchip RN-131 manual) but I am reticent to post it here because there is a fair chance that someone can cause a hardware failure if they are not careful or do not have experience doing this work on electronic circuitry. I want to verify that when you power up your PMC-Eight that 1) There is no SSID that pops up on your network list, and 2) that the system can still communicate via the serial port. I have notes that the SSID that pops up may have the word "save" in the name of the SSID, I am not sure if this is the case for your system. I know you are waiting on a cable to verify number 2 so we can wait for that. In the meantime, if you are comfortable opening up your PMC-Eight, you can still have your controller for use via serial and we can recover your wireless module if you can do the following:

1) Open up the PMC-Eight enclosure by removing the cover
2) Disconnect the antenna cable from the WiFi module daughter board
3) Remove all the DB9 screws (standoffs) from the 3 DB9 connectors (6 in all) this is how the board is mounted in the enclosure
4) Carefully remove the board paying close attention to the antenna cable and connector so that you don't damage them.
5) Pull the WiFi module daughter board from the main PMC-Eight board
6) Carefully place the main board back in the enclosure
7) Line up the connectors and screw holes in the enclosure and put the screws back in the DB9 connectors and tighten
8) Replace the enclosure cover.

If you decide to do this, you should first talk to Kent in customer support - service@... +1 (866) 252-3811 to get an RMA# or
you can log into our service request webpage at:

https://explorescientific.supportsync.com/

and submit a service request. If you submit a service request via our website, put a link to this message thread in the request to document our conversation.

Let me know what you decide to do.
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

 

Darryl,
 
Nothing is missing :-)
 
Your PMC8 is built around the Propeller chip that Jerry described, and it is a dedicated real-time processor.  I'm not aware of anything else like it on the market.  No, it's not a general-purpose chip, but it's a fine choice for what he needed it to do.
 
On top of that, the motor control functions are encapsulated behind an API (the PMC8's control language).  So whatever astronomical control program comes down the road, now or later, just write a driver to talk with that documented API and you're good to go.
 
So yes, the new purchaser does need to have a separate computer to act as an executive for the PMC8, whether for visual or AP, but IMO that's a feature, not a bug.  It preserves independence and versatility.  Today I use a Win7 laptop and ASCOM for AP, but when that runs out of gas for me, I'll probably end up with a Raspberry Pi and INDI - based solution.  And when someone comes up with yet another astro-gadget-management platform, that will probably work, too - because the PMC8 converses with its control programs but is not entangled with them.

Hope this helps...
 
- Bob  
 
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

Jennifer Shelly
 
Edited

Daryl:

There are many mini PCs out there.  Some are in the form of a kit and others are user ready.  Some have a Windows OS others have Raspberry Pi.  


I ultimately decided on a Dell Optiplex Micro PC with 6 core Intel processor and Windows 10 x64 OS. The system works very well for me.  It also has enough processing power to run PixInsight.  I have a a little desk on wheels that I have the Dell Optiplex mounted underneath.  I just roll the cart out to my porch for an imaging session.  Previously I was using a gaming laptop and the Optiplex is much better.   Essentially it is like a laptop on steroids without a monitor, mouse, or keyboard.  

Below are some pictures of my setup.




--
Sincerely,

Jennifer Shelly
AstroPorch, VA

Mounts
: ES PMC-8 G-11, ES PMC-8 EXOS-2
Scopes: ES ED127 FCD-100, ES Levy Comet Hunter, ES N208CF, QHY Mini Guide Scope, Solomark F60 Guide Scope
Cameras: QHY600M, QHY128C, QHY168C
Misc: MoonLite CFL 2.5 / High Res Stepper / V2 Mini Controller, Baader SteelTrack NT / SteelDrive II, Baader UFC, Optolong 2" L-Pro / L-eNhance, QHY CFW3-L, Baader 2” LRGBSHO CCD
Imaging Software:  NINA, APT, SharpCap Pro
Processing Software: PixInsight, Lightroom, Premiere Elements


Re: Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

Darryl Ellis
 

Jerry,

As always i appreciate your responsiveness and detailed, this one being somewhat over my head, answer, lol, but I get the point. 

I was just wondering because a lot of the components sounded familiar.

Also, I have been considering getting a mini computer or something similar to use with my mount, but it just felt redundant.

Darryl


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DHEllis59, Dover, DE

Astro Tech RC 6 w Pegasus Focus Cube, 
QHY10 OSC Camera
Orion ST 80 Guidescope
QHY 5 III 290c Guide Camera 
Explorer Scientific EXOS GT 2 With PMC Eight Controller,
ES 16" Truss Tube Dobsonian and Orion XT8 with Nexus II DSC via Sky Safari Pro,
Celestron Luminous 31mm, Meade MWA 21mm, 15mm, 10mm, and 5mm EPs
Celestron Skymaster 15x70
and 15x25 binoculars
20/20 or better vision in both eyes due to recent cataract surgery!!!
"The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens" - Proverbs 3:19


Re: Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:55 PM, Darryl Ellis wrote:
Help me understand.

HI Darryl,

The PMC-Eight Control System is a dedicated instrument designed to control a two-axis stepper motor system. There are actually 2 microcontroller chips in the PMC-Eight system. These are not general purpose processors like what is on a Single-Board Computer (SBC) system. The main microcontroller (processor) is a Parallax Propeller 8-core microcontroller. This processor does not run an operating system. There are 8 separate tasks that each run on a dedicated processor and has access to their own memory space and share information amongst processors through a global memory system. The firmware I created to command and run the motors is written in the proprietary Propeller spin language and also in Propeller assembly language. These languages allow me to control the hardware IO pins directly. You can think of a microcontroller as a signal generator that speaks directly to other hardware such as the stepper motor driver chips used in the PMC-Eight, the serial interface, and USB interface driver chips. I designed and create the output signals from the Propeller chip in firmware to run the other hardware on the PMC-Eight circuit board.

The other microcontroller used in the PMC-Eight control system is the dedicated WiFi processor (microcontroller). The Microchip RN-131 WiFi module is used in the large board Model 2A PMC-Eight system (G11, EXOS 2), and the Espressif ESP-WROOM-02 is used in the Model 1A PMC-Eight system (iEXOS 100). The WiFi processor also has firmware that we load and configure that provides the wireless network protocol stack and serial interface we use to transmit data in and out of the Propeller processor. 

What you are asking is why can't the PMC-Eight operate like an Arduino, or Raspberry Pi? The answer is that these processors are not general purpose computers that run an operating system the way we have them configured in the PMC-Eight system. Having said that, the ESP-WROOM-02 can be configured to run the RTOS operating system if one were to load that firmware into the processor. I did not choose this configuration as all we require is to run a wireless protocol stack and serial interface to the Propeller 8-core microcontroller. The Propeller chip has access to only 64 KB of memory space (EEPROM) with 32 KB of firmware loaded from the EEPROM into system RAM (32 KB) when booted. The ESP-WROOM-02 has 4 MB (32-Mbit) of memory space (EEPROM) to load programs and firmware and provides a file system to store data. This is a more sophisticated processor that can approach but not quite be a general purpose computer in operation. 

If you own an iEXOS 100 system, you could reprogram the ESP-WROOM-02 WiFi module to include the RTOS operating system and build applications install the network stacks and also run a webserver to provide an interface HMI on the network. We have not (as yet) worked on this type of control interface for the PMC-Eight control system. We are currently researching and developing these and other systems that use SBC's and the WiFi modules capabilities but we have not announced any plans for future products based on this technology. We are still ramping up our capabilities in these areas. 

Finally, we provide the documentation and links for our customers to pursue this work for themselves and share as they see fit with the OpenGOTO Community of PMC-Eight customers.

I know this is a bit long, but I wanted to explain to everyone what the system is actually capable of and how we provide "margin" for future capabilities and future improvements.

Thanks
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

zeccax@...
 
Edited

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 06:37 PM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering wrote:
RN-131 network SSID
Hi Jerry,

Thanks for your time.

Unfortunately I can't see the internal RN-131 SSID in the network list when i scan for wifi connection.

I probably didn't explain well in my previous posts, sorry:

I performed the command to switch to serial successfully using the same pdf in this part:

If you want to change the interface from the default WiFi Port (interface 1) to the Serial Port (interface 0), do the following: NOTE: This assumes that you start with the delivered configuration of the PMC-Eight with the WiFi interface enabled
1. Set your SSID to the PMC-Eight-xx, whatever yours is
2. Using Putty, TELNET into address 192.168.47.1 port 54372.
3. You should be greeted with the *HELLO* prompt of the RN-131 module
4. Enter "###" you should see "Diagnostic Mode Disabled#!
5. Enter "ESX!" and you should see "ESX0!" which says that the interface was switched to the serial port (interface 0) 

Everything went good and i rebooted.

After that, I discovered that any software i tried (indi drivers/pmc8 configurator/parallax/putty) couldn't connect with the serial cable (It's an FTDI USB-RS232 cable and i used FT_Prog to invert the #DTR as instructed in a post i have read to make it work with the pmc-eight. Probably it's a bad cable).
Since i couldn't connect INDI drivers to use the mount anymore with the wifi, and the serial cable wasn't working I tried to revert it in WiFi doing the same procedure since i could still see the SSID of the PMC-Eight and i could connect with putty.
The *HELLO* appeared but the "###" command wasn't responding so i couldn't revert to WiFi in the same way using the ESX! command.

After that I got the stupid idea to do a factory reset thinking that at least it was going to re-enable the wifi interface and that I would have been able to perform the commands (the procedure that you wrote) to set all the ES default values back in the same putty session before losing the connection.

Factory reset worked, setting the values didn't.
I lost the connection at the first command i entered: "set uart b 115200"

I rebooted the device and now I can't see the internal RN-131 SSID in the wireless connections list. I can't connect to it and perform your procedure to set the values.

Is there any hope that a working serial cable can do the trick so i can set all the default values without connecting to the RN-131 internal SSID?

Filippo


Crazy Question - What's The Difference Between the PMC8 and a Mini- Computer? #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #TECHNICAL

Darryl Ellis
 

Hi All,

After going through the Programmers Reference Guide looking for solutions to an issue I have with switching between serial and wifi modes, it bought to mind one of the main reasons I invested in this mount and the PMC8; I was hoping it was going to be more like using a PC with wifi than an Hand Controller.  I always felt like hand controllers were limited though at times I admit I miss having one.  Then there are systems out there like the ASI Air Pro, Prima Luce, Raspberry Pi, etc.  There are mini pc's and other such gadgets. 

Then there is the PMC8, Precision Motor Controller with its 8 processors,computer processor and memory system, motor drive system, and communications interface.  It even has it's own Programmer's language.  Now I'm no computer technician, programmer, or engineer.  However, I have been a functional user of computers since the 80s and have done some pretty interesting things with them.  The PMC8 sounds like a computer to me! 

What am I missing?  What keeps it from being used like a mini computer, or something that I could load programs onto like ExploreStars, PHD, APT, CDC, etc.?  What would it take for the PMC8 to function like/compete with an ASI Air, Pima Luce, or even a PowerwBox? 

I just feel like it's a great idea with a lot of potential, but something is missing.

Help me understand.

Thanks,

Darryl

DHEllis59, Dover, DE
Explorer Scientific 102mm CF EDT 
Astro Tech RC 6 w Pegasus Focus Cube,
Orion ST 80 Guidescope
QHY 5 III 290c Guide Camera 
Explorer Scientific EXOS GT 2 With PMC Eight Controller,
Orion XT8 with Nexus II DSC via Sky Safari Pro,
Celestron Luminous 31mm, Meade MWA 10mm, and 5mm EPs
Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars,
20/20 or better vision in both eyes due to recent cataract surgery!!!
"The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens" - Proverbs 3:19


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 04:26 PM, Dan Kahraman wrote:
They both have a cd disk that you have to install the software for the chip.
I suggest you get the latest driver from the FTDI Website.
You want the VCP (virtual com port) driver. Here is the link to the Microsoft Windows FTDI VCP Driver:
https://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM21228_Setup.zip

Here is the link to the driver download page:
 https://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 03:18 PM, <zeccax@...> wrote:
I used the Explore Scientific PMC-Eight® Application Note PMC8-AN002 pdf. In putty i used the $$$ to access commands and used the factory RESET command.
Hi Filippo,

Yes, I suspected as much.

You performed the section entitled: 
"If you want to change the PMC-Eight WiFi RN-131 configuration then perform the following procedure:"

Unfortunately, you did not heed the warning in this section:
NOTE: Please refer to the Microchip WiFly Command Reference Manual located here: http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/50002230B.pdf
CAUTION: You change these parameters at your own risk,

The section you wanted was entitled:
"If you want to change the interface from the default WiFi Port (interface 1) to the Serial Port (interface 0), do the following:"

What you did was perform a "Microchip" Factory Reset which returned the RN-131 module to the Microchip Factory default configuration. This configuration is set before we at Explore Scientific set OUR SPECIFIC PMC-Eight configuration settings.

Here is what you need to do to recover and get back to the "Explore Scientific" Factory Default:
(This is an excerpt from the Application Note AN002 which is included on pages xx in the PMC-Eight Programmer's Reference located here:
http://02d3287.netsolhost.com/pmc-eight/PMC_Eight_ProgrammersReferenceManual_Release2_2019_March_07.pdf

Please refer to the Microchip WiFly Command Reference Manual located here:
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/50002230B.pdf  for details about the following instructions
You must use the values in the Microchip manual for the "Microchip" default configuration values to attach to the RN-131 network SSID and telnet into the proper IP address with the proper port number. See the section in the Microchip RN-131 manual entitled: FACTORY RESET.

1. Connect your computer to the wireless network SSID of the Microchip SSID, whichever yours is. It may include the word "roving" or "wifly"
2. After connecting to the Microchip SSID, open up a Command Window and issue the command "ipconfig /all"
3. Look for the "Wireless Gateway value" under the "Wireless LAN Adapter WiFi" section. Record this value
4. Using Putty, TELNET into the IP address recorded in step 3 using port 2000 
3. You should be greeted with the *HELLO* prompt of the RN-131 module.
4. Enter "$$$", and you should see "CMD".
5. Hit Enter again and the version number prompt, i.e., "<4.41>", is displayed.
6. Enter "get everything" to obtain a list of all the current parameters and what they are set to:

At this point please post these parameters here on this thread so that I can see them.

YOU SHOULD NOW BE ABLE TO ISSUE THE FOLLOWING COMMANDS TO RESTORE YOUR WIRELESS TO THE "Explore Scientific" Default Values.

RN-131 WiFi Module Explore Scientific Default Configuration Setup Commands 
NOTE: It is suggested that you cut and paste each block of commands into the terminal and then manually type and enter the “save” command. Ensure you receive the “AOK” response after each command is entered. 

START OF SETUP COMMANDS --------------------------------------------------

set uart b 115200
set comm size 64
set dns addr 0.0.0.0
set dns backup 0.0.0.0
save

set dns name dns1
set ftp addr 0.0.0.0
set ftp time 200 save
set ip dhcp 4
set ip flag 0x47
set ip gate 192.168.47.1
set ip addr 192.168.47.1
set ip net 255.255.0.0
save

set ip host 0.0.0.0
set ip protocol 0x03
set ip remote 54372
set ip local 54372
save

set sys autosleep 0
set sys sleep 0
set sys wake 5
set sys trigger 0x01
save

set wlan auth 4
set wlan hide 1
set wlan join 7
set wlan chan 8
save

NOTE: In the following 2 set commands, set the SSID to your specific module SSID, replacing the XX with your number.
             We use the last 2 characters of the MAC address 


set wlan ssid PMC-Eight-XX
set apmode ssid PMC-Eight-XX

set opt deviceid PMC-Eight save
set wlan passphrase PMC-Eight
set apmode passphrase PMC-Eight
save

set wlan ext_antenna 1
save

Reboot

END OF SETUP COMMANDS -------------------------------------------------

Hopefully if you can follow all that, then you should be successful restoring your PMC-Eight. 
Alternatively, you can return your PMC-Eight controller to us to restore the system.

--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Dan Kahraman <dkahra213@...>
 

Hi Filippo:



They both have a cd disk that you have to install the software for the chip. They both work well. From looking at your link it should work. If not you can always return it.

Dan Kahraman



On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 15:03, <zeccax@...> wrote:
Hi everyone, 
I'm a proud new owner of an exos-2 pmc-eight.

I probably made a big mistake:
I wanted to update the firmware so I connected putty to the mount with WiFi. I switched to serial connection, but I think my serial cable isn't good (I inverted dtr) because putty, parallax or config manager wasn't able to connect. I was still able to connect putty on WiFi but I wasn't able to switch back to WiFi connection.

Here's the mistake.. I made a factory reset thinking I was able to set the explore scientific default values on WiFi cause it was still connected. At the first set command putty wasn't responding and now I'm stuck. 

Will I be able to connect with a good serial cable and set the default ES values or I bricked it in just 3 days? 

I bought a new cable on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.it/DSD-TECH-SH-RS232A-Adattatore-seriale/dp/B07MYYCMJT
Is that good? 

Sorry for my English, I'm Italian.
Any help would be great.


Filippo


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

zeccax@...
 
Edited

Hi Jerry,
I used the Explore Scientific PMC-Eight® Application Note PMC8-AN002 pdf. In putty i used the $$$ to access commands and used the factory RESET command.


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 03:03 PM, <zeccax@...> wrote:
Here's the mistake.. I made a factory reset thinking I was able to set the explore scientific default values on WiFi cause it was still connected. At the first set command putty wasn't responding and now I'm stuck. 
Hi Filippo,

Your system is not bricked.  Tell me exactly where did you get the information you used to do all these changes, then I can understand where you issued the factory reset as you called it. I have a good idea what you did, but I want you to describe to me specifically so that I am sure we are on the same page. If what I suspect is true, I can direct you to how to correct the issue.

Thanks
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!

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