Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
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Re: UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE
#ExploreScientific
#FIRMWARE
Dave Cherry
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From: Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 3:51 PM To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE #ExploreScientific #FIRMWARE
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Dave Cherry wrote:
Hi Dave,
-- Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2 Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools
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Re: UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE
#ExploreScientific
#FIRMWARE
kevin power
Is the new update recent? Had my EXOS 2 for just over a month and installed latest at the time.
Thanks
Kev
From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> on behalf of Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering <jrh@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 3:51:51 PM To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE #ExploreScientific #FIRMWARE On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Dave Cherry wrote:
Does this new firmware have any advantages if you are pulse guiding with a guide scope?Hi Dave, There have been no significant changes recently to the pulse guiding code, but there is a significant change that impacts the performance of the slews that you would definitely want to have. -- Jerry Hubbell Vice President of Engineering Explore Scientific, LLC. jrh at explorescientific.com www.explorescientificusa.com 1010 S. 48th Street Springdale, AR 72762 1-866-252-3811 Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment Wilderness, VA Mounts: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM) Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF Cameras: QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance, Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!
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Re: UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE
#ExploreScientific
#FIRMWARE
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Dave Cherry wrote:
Does this new firmware have any advantages if you are pulse guiding with a guide scope?Hi Dave, There have been no significant changes recently to the pulse guiding code, but there is a significant change that impacts the performance of the slews that you would definitely want to have. -- Jerry Hubbell Vice President of Engineering Explore Scientific, LLC. jrh at explorescientific.com www.explorescientificusa.com 1010 S. 48th Street Springdale, AR 72762 1-866-252-3811 Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment Wilderness, VA Mounts: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM) Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF Cameras: QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance, Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!
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Re: UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE
#ExploreScientific
#FIRMWARE
Dave Cherry
I keep meaning to ask you guys...
Does this new firmware have any advantages if you are pulse guiding with a guide scope? I haven't upgraded yet as it is working fine for me just as it is. I always like to apply the "If it ain't broke" rule where possible! Cheers Dave -- Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2 Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools
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Re: UPDATED FIRMWARE NOW AVAILABLE
#ExploreScientific
#FIRMWARE
Brad Becker <desertfrag@...>
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 03:52 AM, Wes Mcdonald wrote:
You need a usb to serial interface cable with FTDI chipIs this cable included with the new purchase of an EXos2-GT PMC-8?
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
Brad Becker <desertfrag@...>
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 04:12 PM, <chrisjbourque@...> wrote:
It works, but I wouldn't call it optimal.Thanks, its comforting to hear from someone with firsthand knowledge. In a perfect world 'optimal' would be great to guide our buying decisions but 'good enough' often trumps it with those darn constraints in life.
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Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do.
#G11
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#EXOS2
Dave,
Thanks - Interesting workflow! I have a couple of new tools to check out now :-)
- Bob
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras: Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2 Computer: Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64
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Re: Upgrading my equipment
#ASCOM
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#TECHNICAL
Jeff Snell <Jeffery.snell1@...>
Thanks Vince! I’ll give these a look.
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On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Vince White <vnwhite@...> wrote:
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Re: Upgrading my equipment
#ASCOM
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#TECHNICAL
Vince White
Hey Jeff, I have a couple of quick comments on
lightening
your battery pack: If you haven't actually measured the running wattage of all of your equipment, you might be surprised by how little something consumes versus the rated wattage of the AC-DC adapter. Something like this is convenient to measure the running wattage of individual equipment, and generally handy around the house. You might find that your total running wattage is lower than you think and that the 114AH battery may be oversized, certainly 70# is a lot to drag around. Depending on your laptop and OS, you should be able to enable power-savings and significantly reduce its running power consumption. Also, I suspect that most, if not all, of your astro gear is DC powered. Doing a conversation from the lead-acid 12VDC to 120VAC with an inverter, then back to DC via the individual AC-DC adapters is not very efficient. Ideally you would just use the 12VDC of your battery straight to your devices (like the PMC-Eight) or do a 12VDC to DC conversion using boost or buck converters, which are very efficient (~90%). The downside to buck converters is that if they fail, they tend to supply the full input voltage to the end device, which can be very bad, depending on how the electronics are designed. A boost converter doesn't have the same issue, since it would either fail or just output 12VDC. I'm currently using 3 small buck converters and I've built added overvoltage protection circuits (called a crowbar) to each of them, however, it was a fairly complicated process to do. Some people risk using buck converters without overvoltage protection or double them up in series to tolerate a single failure. You also might be able to find 12V versions of your current gear, for example, here's a 12VDC powered USB 3.0 hub you could power directly off of your battery. -Vince -- Mount: ES PMC-8 EXOS2-GT
Scopes: BRESSER 208mm f/3.9 Newt + ES HR Coma Corrector, Celestron C90 Mak, generic 50/191mm guide scope
Cameras: Canon EOS RP, T7C (ZWO ASI120MC clone)
Misc: 2" Optolong L-eNhance filter, 2" Optolong UHC filter, Raspberry PI 4 Software: INDI + Kstars + EKOS, DeepSkyStacker, GIMP, Lightroom, Photoshop, SIRIL
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Re: EXOS 2 GT Payload Capacity
Jeff Snell <Jeffery.snell1@...>
Thanks Mark,
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I’m sure there are a myriad of factors that are affecting me. I’m not too frustrated at this point though. I’ve only tried it the one time. I’ll give it a go again sometime later in the summer. As for the comet, I got out last night in the Great Salt Lake and took some wide angle shots with an Irix 15mm f2.4 and my T5i. Lots of clouds but I got some decent shots. I’m camping starting this week in a dark sky area and will have my 80mm APO. Maybe I’ll look that way😆 Have a great one! Jeff
On Jul 18, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Mark Christensen <mjcw500@...> wrote:
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Re: Upgrading my equipment
#ASCOM
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#TECHNICAL
Jeff Snell <Jeffery.snell1@...>
Hi Koen, What follows as far as purchases assumes you are in the US. If not, I'm sure you can find substitutes. I consider my setup portable. I break it all down and pack it in three tool boxes I bought from Home Depot/Lowes. Here's a pic: The Stanley holds my 80mm APO nicely. I bought some 3" thick soft foam padding and cut it to fit the box and that keeps the APO pretty secure. One of the two Rigids holds the EXOS 2 Mount. I used the original shipping pack that the mount came in and just cut it to fit the box. It slides in just like it was sent from the factory. Once that's in, I even have enough room for the tray that came with the tool box to fit on top of it. I put lenses, the counter weight and bar, and whatever else I think I need in there. The other Rigid carries the remainder of gear (cameras, lenses, eyepieces, adapters, red light flashlight, misc, etc...). The biggest part is of course the tripod. I just pack that wherever it fits in the back of the Jeep. Now, to the question of "portability." This set up makes it easy to move around but of course "some assembly required" every single time. I used a Sharpie marker on every part that has to be lined up or at a certain point (mostly all about balance of the scope)...the counter weight position on the bar, the position of the scope on the mount, even how far the camera had to go in the extension tube of the APO (that was for focus). I'm "practiced" pretty well now so in about 15 minutes I can have it all hooked up and ready to go. The biggest portability issue for me though was power. If there is AC power on site at the campground, great. But most of the places I go to camp have everything but power. I tried to run the gear on a celestron power tank but just too much juice needed for the mount, laptop, and USB strip/accessories. There may be a "power tank like" solution out there but I couldn't find one. I had some great advice from folks on this forum including parts lists and instructions to build my own. But as previously stated, I am not technically savvy and opted out of burning my house down or electrocuting myself. I did some online searches and found this article (see page 50 from this link: https://issuu.com/amateurastophotography/docs/issue13s ). This set me in the direction below. I ran the calculations from the article to determine what was needed then I built this: Above: A power pack consisting of a 114 Amp Hour Deep Cycle Marine Battery in the milk crate, and a 1500W power inverter mounted on the outside. Bought it all at Walmart (~$300 for the battery, the inverter and the charger). The inverter has all the outlets/USB charging I need. I just use a single power strip to plug everything in, so I have ample outlets. Below: A pic of the side of the inverter with two USB and three AC outlets. Below: The top view of the setup on the charger since I'm taking it camping tomorrow: Below: The inverter: Most of the time I shoot from my backyard so all of my crap is kept assembled in a garage and I move it out when needed. I have unobstructed southern facing sky. I simply run a 50 foot extension cord to the gear so no battery necessary. Easy peasy. But, when I take this rig camping, the battery setup is the elephant in the room. The deep cycle marine battery weighs in at around 70lbs. I'm still in decent shape but time is catching up. Don't know if you consider that portable or not, but I'm certainly questioning my logic on occasion :-) I will say this though, this power pack is battle tested. By the calculations, I should easily be able to image for about 6 hours each night for two nights in a row (maybe another if I'm lucky) without recharging. I've tested the two night theory and it works. I only imaged for about 4 hours each of those nights though. Too lazy to stay up too late... Hope this helps. I'll let you know if it makes three nights. My camping is a three nighter to Cedar Breaks National Monument in Utah. 10,000 feet altitude and dark sky new moon! It'll probably rain... Have a great one! Jeff PMC-Eight w/Explore Stars ES ED80mm APO Celestron 8" Edge HD Canon Ti-5 w/ Spencer Camera Astro-mod
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:16 PM Koen M. <koen.molemans@...> wrote:
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
Chris Bourque
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 06:47 PM, desert frag wrote:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 02:06 PM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering wrote:Its funny, I was going to link this as well, but decided not to, as its a little "hodge podge" for using on the ES mount. Its definitely not designed for this. However, I actually went ahead and bought this myself, in addition to the dovetail I linked above. It works "well-enough" for my testing purposes. But its not really built for the vixen style dovetail plate adapters. This is designed for a specific quick-release system. When sitting flat, this style bar does not stand as tall as a vixen style dovetail and so will not hold your equipment above the mounting plate. That being said, it does technically "fit". Assuming you will be offsetting your camera to balance, the length of this bar allows you to secure it in the mount without the camera bumping either the mount plate, or the tightening knobs. This has been my experience when mounting a Canon 60D with 200mm telephoto lens. It works, but I wouldn't call it optimal.
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
desert frag <desertfrag@...>
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 11:13 AM, Chuck Lewis wrote:
Then I added a cheap red-dot finder onto the camera's flash shoeNever heard of this. What a nice accessory!
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
desert frag <desertfrag@...>
Great thank you.
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 02:06 PM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering wrote:
Did you watch the video included on the page I linked to our dovetail bar for mounting your DSLR on the EXOS 2?Yes and it looks easy peasy thanks :) For someone who might be interested in something less expensive to begin with with modest equipment would this work as well? It says Dovetail and no mention of Losmandy type. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z40WWQG/?coliid=I2I5F1WVSOZRPK&colid=1B94WRIQ7BB4J&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
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Re: Upgrading my equipment
#ASCOM
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#TECHNICAL
Koen M.
Hi Jeff,
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
Harry
Yes, the bottom “grooves” on the bottom of the Skywatcher adapter will fit slide right in the top of your mount. No further hardware required. I have used it with a regular ball head and a pistol grip ball head adapter. The pistol kind is very easy to adjust in any direction. You just squeeze it to adjust, and then release the pistol grip, and it stays put. However, it does add a little extra weight.
Harry -- Harry Vero Beach, FL Scopes: ES ED80CF, ES AR102, Meade ETX 90 EC (Deforked) Mounts: ES iExos 100-PMC Eight, ExploreStars IPAD & Fire HD8 Nikon D600, D5500, MacOS, Starry Sky Stacker, Lightroom, Affinity Photo
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 02:15 PM, desert frag wrote:
Sorry, as I don't have the mount yet I don't know what's 'on top' of the mount.The vast majority of astronomical mounts from all the manufacturers use a dovetail based mounting system. There are two styles of dovetails in general usage, Vixen style, and Losmandy style. You have to connect whatever you want to put on the mount to either a Vixen or Losmandy dovetail. The EXOS 2 PMC-Eight uses a Vixen style dovetail. Did you watch the video included on the page I linked to our dovetail bar for mounting your DSLR on the EXOS 2? This shows how it works -- Jerry Hubbell Vice President of Engineering Explore Scientific, LLC. jrh at explorescientific.com www.explorescientificusa.com 1010 S. 48th Street Springdale, AR 72762 1-866-252-3811 Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment Wilderness, VA Mounts: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM) Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF Cameras: QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance, Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!
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Re: Mounting camera to EXOS2
#EXOS2
#astrophotography
desert frag <desertfrag@...>
Hi Chris, yes I was looking for something a bit cheaper but having a hard time finding one which includes 3/8" screws like the one ES sells to support the ball head I'm planning to mount.
Also, I'm trying to understand the mount nomenclature ie are all dovetails 'vixen' style or vice versa or whether it makes any difference when it comes to EOS compatibility.
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