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Re: One beginner's guide to getting EXOS2/PMC8 fully operational with ASCOM, Stellarium, SharpCap, ASPS, and ASCOMPAD

Wes Mcdonald
 

Yes indeed.  And once in serial the pmc8 will remain there until you change it

We’d

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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: One beginner's guide to getting EXOS2/PMC8 fully operational with ASCOM, Stellarium, SharpCap, ASPS, and ASCOMPAD

 

Thank you Wes,  that worked !

I didn’t realize that I have startup CM with WiFi connection active. 

Once, I am active via serial, I assume I can disconnect the mount WiFi connection - correct ? 

Peter
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Mount: EXOS2-GT, Orion SkyView EQ
Scope: ESED80-FCD100, Orion 8” Newt
Guide system: Starfield 50mm, Altair GPCAM2 130M
DSLR: Canon 6D, T3i
Software: ExploreStars W10, iOS; Sharpcap, Altair ImageCapture, PMC 8 Manager, Stellarium 
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA


Re: #EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking after 18 seconds #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Omar Rahman
 

I had the same problem and almost sold the Asiair before I saw a post by Jerry and tried the alternate firmware. That fixed the problem and it hasn’t happened since with either the original Asiair or the Pro. 


Omar
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Scope:        
ES ED102
Mounts
:      ES EXOS2-PMC-8, SkyWatcher Star Adventurer
Cameras:   ASI1600MM Pro, Nikon D7500
Lens:
          Nikon 200-500mm, Tamron 70-200mm G2, Nikon 120mm manual lens
Misc:          ZWO ASI120Mini Guide Camera, ZWO 30mm mini guidescope, Stellarmate, Asiair
Software:  Kstars, SkySafari, ExploreStars (android), Pixinsight, DeepSkyStacker, Regim, Astrostakkert, LR/PS, RNC-color-stretch
Computer:  Macbook Pro, Surface Pro 4, iPhone, Fire 7


Re: #EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking after 18 seconds #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 04:14 AM, <harvey.richard2007@...> wrote:
My EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking completely after 18 seconds when connected to my ASIAir Pro. Any exposure longer than 10-15 seconds will result in star trails, *even* if the Tracking button is on in the ASIAir Android app.  Did someone experience the same with this mount?
Hi Harvey,

It sounds like the Communication Watchdog timer is stopping the mount's tracking. This is designed to kick in when a program or in your case, the ASIAIR stops sending commands to the mount. Typically ASCOM or in this case INDI clients would continuously query the mount to get real-time position data at a minimum. It sounds like this is not the case with the ASIAIR program(s).

The fix is to download the latest EXOS 2 PMC-Eight "a" version firmware (9t_17a_EXOS2) and install it on your PMC-Eight system.

I think this will correct your problem.
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: One beginner's guide to getting EXOS2/PMC8 fully operational with ASCOM, Stellarium, SharpCap, ASPS, and ASCOMPAD

Wes Mcdonald
 

Peter:

No I dont think it is faulty, at least not yet.

1.  You must have your PC attached to the PMC8 via wifi for the CM to function correctly.
2.  Get a clean boot of the PMC8 and choose the PMC8 wifi for the PC WiFi connection
3.  Plug in the serial cable.  
4.  Boot the Configuration Manager.
5.  Drop down the connection tab.
6.  Set the mount type to Exos2
7.  Press the find button.  
8.  Press the refresh button to ensure you have the comm port 
9.  Pick the comm port reported by the Find button.
10 Press the top right DO IT button to Find Current Connection
11.  Now assuming all is well press the VIA ASCOM DO IT button.  

Thats it, you are now in serial mode.

If this does not work, report back the status of the bottom line of the window.  Two different connection method indicators, will be green or red.  

wes


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:29 PM Voyager <pmaks01@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Wes,
USB to Serial via Parallax FTDI chip cable (https://www.parallax.com/product/28031)
- tried both USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports
- I have two of these cables and each gave the same results - interestingly, PMC Manager shows different COM ports whe I i plug in each cable/adapter (COM 3 and COM 5 respectively), in the same USP port
Nothing else connected to laptop at this time.

PmC-EIght Config Manager output:
7       Com Port: COM3
6       Com Port: COM3
5       Received: 
4       Sending via Serial: ESX!
3       Received: 
2       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!
1       The mount does not appear to be connected. Please check your settings and network connection.
0       Com Port: COM3

Tried WiFi connection - this worked. Disconnected the WiFi and attempted to switch to serial "Via ASCOM" and received pop up message: 
"Mount is currently busy. Please try again in a second...":

31       The mount does not appear to be connected. Please check your settings and network connection.
30       Com Port: COM3
29       Switching to TCP......Already on TCP
28       Switching to TCP...
27       Switching to ASCOM......Could not switch.
26       Switching to ASCOM...
25       Switching to ASCOM......Could not switch

Could the PMC-Eight unit be faulty ?
Thanks, 
Peter
--
Mount: EXOS2-GT, Orion SkyView EQ
Scope: ESED80-FCD100, Orion 8” Newt
Guide system: Starfield 50mm, Altair GPCAM2 130M
DSLR: Canon 6D, T3i
Software: ExploreStars W10, iOS; Sharpcap, Altair ImageCapture, PMC 8 Manager, Stellarium 
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: One beginner's guide to getting EXOS2/PMC8 fully operational with ASCOM, Stellarium, SharpCap, ASPS, and ASCOMPAD

 
Edited

Wes,
USB to Serial via Parallax FTDI chip cable (https://www.parallax.com/product/28031)
- tried both USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports
- I have two of these cables and each gave the same results - interestingly, PMC Manager shows different COM ports whe I i plug in each cable/adapter (COM 3 and COM 5 respectively), in the same USP port
Nothing else connected to laptop at this time.

PmC-EIght Config Manager output:
7       Com Port: COM3
6       Com Port: COM3
5       Received: 
4       Sending via Serial: ESX!
3       Received: 
2       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!
1       The mount does not appear to be connected. Please check your settings and network connection.
0       Com Port: COM3

Tried WiFi connection - this worked. Disconnected the WiFi and attempted to switch to serial "Via ASCOM" and received pop up message: 
"Mount is currently busy. Please try again in a second...":

31       The mount does not appear to be connected. Please check your settings and network connection.
30       Com Port: COM3
29       Switching to TCP......Already on TCP
28       Switching to TCP...
27       Switching to ASCOM......Could not switch.
26       Switching to ASCOM...
25       Switching to ASCOM......Could not switch

Could the PMC-Eight unit be faulty ?
Thanks, 
Peter
--
Mount: EXOS2-GT, Orion SkyView EQ
Scope: ESED80-FCD100, Orion 8” Newt
Guide system: Starfield 50mm, Altair GPCAM2 130M
DSLR: Canon 6D, T3i
Software: ExploreStars W10, iOS; Sharpcap, Altair ImageCapture, PMC 8 Manager, Stellarium 
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA


Re: Cygnus Loop #G11

Jennifer Shelly
 

Dan:

Yes.  I have used  Astrometry.net.
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Sincerely,

Jennifer Shelly
AstroPorch, VA

Mounts
: ES PMC-8 G-11, ES PMC-8 EXOS-2
Scopes: ES ED127 FCD-100, ES Levy Comet Hunter, ES N208CF, QHY Mini Guide Scope, Solomark F60 Guide Scope
Cameras: QHY600M, QHY128C, QHY168C
Misc: MoonLite CFL 2.5 / High Res Stepper / V2 Mini Controller, Baader SteelTrack NT / SteelDrive II, Baader UFC, Optolong 2" L-Pro / L-eNhance, QHY CFW3-L, Baader 2” LRGBSHO CCD
Imaging Software:  NINA, APT, SharpCap Pro
Processing Software: PixInsight, Lightroom, Premiere Elements


Re: One beginner's guide to getting EXOS2/PMC8 fully operational with ASCOM, Stellarium, SharpCap, ASPS, and ASCOMPAD

Wes Mcdonald
 

Peter

Give us a rundown on your configuration, cables etc etc.  

One item that bit someone with the iexos was the usb cable they were using was a charging only cable with no data wires.  Make sure you have a real usb cable.

Wes

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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: #EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking after 18 seconds #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

jrichard333 <jrichard333@hotmail.com>
 

Good day Dave,

 

The ASIAIR or PRO eliminates the need to carry an external computer with you; everything is controlled from the box.

 

JR 

 

From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io [mailto:MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Connolly
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 3:39 AM
To: MAIN@espmc-eight.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] #EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking after 18 seconds

 

 

I would have thought you did not need Asiair with a pmc 8 ?

 

On Fri 24 Jul 2020 at 09:14, <harvey.richard2007@...> wrote:

My EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking completely after 18 seconds when connected to my ASIAir Pro. Any exposure longer than 10-15 seconds will result in star trails, *even* if the Tracking button is on in the ASIAir Android app.  Did someone experience the same with this mount?


Re: #EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking after 18 seconds #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Dave Connolly <dave.w.connolly@...>
 


I would have thought you did not need Asiair with a pmc 8 ?


On Fri 24 Jul 2020 at 09:14, <harvey.richard2007@...> wrote:
My EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking completely after 18 seconds when connected to my ASIAir Pro. Any exposure longer than 10-15 seconds will result in star trails, *even* if the Tracking button is on in the ASIAir Android app.  Did someone experience the same with this mount?


#EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking after 18 seconds #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

harvey.richard2007@...
 

My EXOS2 #PMC-Eight stops tracking completely after 18 seconds when connected to my ASIAir Pro. Any exposure longer than 10-15 seconds will result in star trails, *even* if the Tracking button is on in the ASIAir Android app.  Did someone experience the same with this mount?


Re: One beginner's guide to getting EXOS2/PMC8 fully operational with ASCOM, Stellarium, SharpCap, ASPS, and ASCOMPAD

 

Hello Wes, Kent,

Unfortunately I'm back to the start again - can't connect via serial! 

Wifi works, but serial connectivity is dead. I've rebooted the laptop, PMC-8 controller multiple times. After selecting the scope via POTH Hub, when I try yo connect to the mount it, the app just hangs with a spinner... Any suggestions ?

Peter



--
Mount: EXOS2-GT, Orion SkyView EQ
Scope: ESED80-FCD100, Orion 8” Newt
Guide system: Starfield 50mm, Altair GPCAM2 130M
DSLR: Canon 6D, T3i
Software: ExploreStars W10, iOS; Sharpcap, Altair ImageCapture, PMC 8 Manager, Stellarium 
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA


Re: Cannot connect to mount but can connect to PMC-Eight network #ExploreStars #iEXOS-100

Yorksman
 

This has been sorted now. It was a comms port problem. Making a serial connection on the correct comms port in PMC-Eight Configuration Manager unlocked the other 'Try' buttons which had been greyed out. This allowed the connection.


Re: New ASCOM Platform 6.5 Has Been Released #ASCOM #ExploreScientific

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 03:18 PM, John Crisp wrote:
I did not initially realize the elimination of the POTH hub
Hi John,

I don't know if you noticed it during the install of the new platform. You can check the box to install POTH if you want it. That and 3 other programs are not automatically installed with version 6.5 but they are still available to install. This would probably only apply if you manually remove the previous platform version and install 6.5 fresh.
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: New ASCOM Platform 6.5 Has Been Released #ASCOM #ExploreScientific

John Crisp
 

I just updated one of my control computers (the one I use as my primary to control my EXOS-II - PCM8 mount this weekend with ASCOM 6.5 - without installing new drivers) - I did not initially realize the elimination of the POTH hub in this version but after a few minutes of reading, I found the settings and connected the mount to Cartes du Ciel and did some slewing around inside the living room and did some unguided tracking (again inside) with my scope on the mount.

I also updated my Sequence Generator Pro to recognize the changes - should have clear skies tomorrow but so far it went without a hitch - famous last words... the good news is that I did not buy any new equipment so I should get some clear skies in the next few days to give it a real world test. I'll document my journey and let you know how it goes.

Prior to the update from 6.4 I had my comet hunter/Nikon D810 mounted for imaging along with my guide camera and was getting total RMS around 1 with the RA sitting around .87" and Dec around .5" - I run through a boosted USB and ASCOM guiding for the guide camera.

John - Cloudy Sky Observatory


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

nickerson.joseph@...
 

WOW, yup!!! That worked. Nothing like that fresh newb feeling. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Chris Tardif
 

Only one driver can connect to the mount at a time...that driver has to be the ASCOM driver for the mount.  Then you run POTHHUB which then connects using ASCOM to the driver.  Other software like SGP or others then connect to the mount on POTHHUB


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Mounts: Explore Scientific IEXOS-100 w Celestron CG5 tripod, iOptron CEM 40
Scopes: Explore Scientific FCD-100 ED-102CF, Various Canon lenses, ZWO mini-guidescope, StarField 60mm guide-scope.
CameraASI120MM Mini (mono), Altair GPCAM 130
Control PC: Intel NUC
Loc: 44 -79


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

 

Joe,

The magic word you are looking for is 'POTH'. 

It's an ASCOM component, and it is a server process (basically, a messaging hub).  You connect POTH to the mount (PMC8), and then you connect your various control applications to POTH, which routes messages between applications connected to it, as required. 

Lots of threads here on POTH, driver setup, etc.  But that's the missing piece - all of that control messaging runs through POTH, and POTH (via the PMC8 driver) is the only program that connects directly to the mount.

- Bob


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, at 12:47, nickerson.joseph@... wrote:
Hey Everyone,
I am brand new to this forum. I am usually pretty resourceful when it comes to figuring out problems on my own. But after digging through forums, FAQ and YouTube, I have finally broke down and I am asking for help.

I recently bought the EXOS2 w/ PMC-8 to use with my ES ED102 for astrophotography. Long story short, I can only connect one program at a time to the ASCOM/PMC-8. I.e. I cannot connect PHD2 and Cartes du ciel at the same time. Once I am connected to say Cartes du ciel and then try to connect to PHD2, i get the same error of "ASCOM driver problem during connection (ASCOM.Utilties) Access to the port 'COM7' is denied". This happens with any combination of programs, only one can be connected. I have to disconnect from Cartes du ciel and then I can connect just fine to PHD2. I have all the latest ASCOM drivers installed and again, any single program works fine. Is this normal for this mount? Ultimately, I am trying to run Sequence Generator and everything connect through that, but again, I can only connect 1 program at a time to the mount. 

Thanks in advance,
Joe


--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

nickerson.joseph@...
 

Hey Everyone,
I am brand new to this forum. I am usually pretty resourceful when it comes to figuring out problems on my own. But after digging through forums, FAQ and YouTube, I have finally broke down and I am asking for help.

I recently bought the EXOS2 w/ PMC-8 to use with my ES ED102 for astrophotography. Long story short, I can only connect one program at a time to the ASCOM/PMC-8. I.e. I cannot connect PHD2 and Cartes du ciel at the same time. Once I am connected to say Cartes du ciel and then try to connect to PHD2, i get the same error of "ASCOM driver problem during connection (ASCOM.Utilties) Access to the port 'COM7' is denied". This happens with any combination of programs, only one can be connected. I have to disconnect from Cartes du ciel and then I can connect just fine to PHD2. I have all the latest ASCOM drivers installed and again, any single program works fine. Is this normal for this mount? Ultimately, I am trying to run Sequence Generator and everything connect through that, but again, I can only connect 1 program at a time to the mount. 

Thanks in advance,
Joe


Cannot connect to mount but can connect to PMC-Eight network #ExploreStars #iEXOS-100

Yorksman
 

I had Explorestars working with my windows laptop via a wireless connection. However, whilst attempting to setup a serial connection using the Ascom Platform and PMC-Eight Configuration Manager, I can no longer use Explorestars. I also failed to make a serial connection and have disconnected the cable from both the laptop and the mount.

Using WiFi, the PMC-Eight Configuration Manager reports Current Mount Connection Method "UNKNOWN" Current WiFi Network "PMC-Eight FCA3" Nothing seems to work. Find Current Connection under How Fo You Want to Connect, just results in waiting, the other options are greyed out. None of the commands in Advanced work either. They all report error, no connection availabl, yet the PMC-Eight the recognised WiFi Link.

I have even tried installing Explorestars on another laptop which also recognises the PMC-Eight network, but that doesn't work either. It is as if a command has changed something in the mount, if such a thing is possible. I have even tried using the dongle and resetting. Any ideas please?

Harry Amphlett

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