Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do.
#G11
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#EXOS2
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:42 AM, Henry Staub wrote:
Would you please help me or suggest someone who can. I need to figure out how to connect my EXOS2 to ASIAir Pro.I can get the camera to work but no connection to mount. It is connected to the ASIAir Pro using the FTDI cable that links back to the ASIAIR unit.Hi Henry, You already started another message thread about this, this message is off topic for this thread. I would remind members to refrain from hijacking a message thread with unrelated content. Thanks -- Jerry Hubbell Vice President of Engineering Explore Scientific, LLC. jrh at explorescientific.com www.explorescientificusa.com 1010 S. 48th Street Springdale, AR 72762 1-866-252-3811 Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment Wilderness, VA Mounts: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM) Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF Cameras: QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance, Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Thank you Wes.
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On 5 Sep 2020, at 15:43, Jason Colbeck <jasonacolbeck@...> wrote:
-- Michael Whitaker Wakefield, UK. MOUNTS. Exos-2 PMC Eight.. SCOPE: RVO Horizon 72ed. CAMERA: Not Applicable. SOFTWARE: Just iPad at moment.
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Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do.
#G11
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#EXOS2
Wes Mcdonald
Jeff: You have got it going on brother! wes
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 8:32 PM Jeff Snell <Jeffery.snell1@...> wrote:
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Wes, Southport NC EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100 ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC 110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power Electrical Engineer, Retired
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Nice write up. I allways got perfect alignment with my CG4 & polar scope,,regularly got 3 to 5 mins exposure just tracking in RA at 420mm focal length. 20 mins when guiding, the clock face reticle makes it so easy to align,,The reticle in the exos-2 , is unfamiliar ,I'm going to replace it with a eq5 train track/ clockface one if it fits. I would like to try polar alignment using my guide scope & sharpcap but I haven't made the plunge yet. The exos-2 is new to me & I'm still learning my way around it, But It has great potential & I love it so far. Hopefully its dark tonight so I can try aligning with the guide cam. It's all good 😃
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020, 21:57 Wes Mcdonald, <wesmcd6@...> wrote: So I want to just make a point or two that might help.
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Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do.
#G11
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#EXOS2
Jeff Snell <Jeffery.snell1@...>
Folks, This is some cool scheisse! I love this hobby and this gear!!! For those having issues, plow through them. I had the exact same issues and Explore Scientific was there every step of the way as were many other on this forum! I've been doing this for about a year now and am just finally feeling somewhat comfortable with the outcome with still a long way to go. Stay patient. The rewards are truly amazing! Attached is the Western Veil Nebula and Pickering's Triangle. Taken last night in North Ogden, Utah. Bortles 5-6, 90% moon illumination. Stacked in Deep Sky Stacker. Processed in Photoshop following step by step Trevor Jones' Astrobackyard Photoshop tutorial on Youtube. 30 Lights (3200 ISO, 240s Exposure) 20 Darks 20 Lights 20 Bias Gear: EXOS 2GT/PMC-Eight (serial) ES ED 80MM APO Refractor Canon T5i (astro modified) Optolong L-Enhance Dual Narrowband Filter Field Flattener Programs: ASCOM POTH Hub, Polemaster, CdC, APT, PHD2, Deep Sky Stacker, Photoshop w/Astrophoto plug ins Clear skies everybody! Jeff PMC-Eight w/Explore Stars ES ED80mm APO Celestron 8" Edge HD Canon Ti-5 w/ Spencer Camera Astro-mod
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:11 PM Jeff snell <jeffery.snell1@...> wrote:
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Wes Mcdonald
So I want to just make a point or two that might help.
I cannot advise you on using the polar scope except to say don’t bother. Get something else which I will recommend below. Life is too short to be messing with that danged little scope on your hands and knees. If you are bound and determined to use it for heavens sake watch some you tube videos about it. There are Many out there. And don’t forget to get the thing collimated to the ra axis per internet videos. Bill, any mount that has a polar scope has the same issue for a user. If you want to use a polar scope you just have to figure it out. But you can buy your way out as I will show below. If/when you get your RA axis polar aligned, which in the end you do using your altitude and azimuth adjustment bolts, you must return the mount to ra and dec polar home position before turning on the pmc8. You find out where polar home is for your mount by executing the procedure I documented in a document that is found in the files section of the mounts sub group. If you are going to not use a virtual alignment in explorestars, your mount must be level for your gotos to be correct even after you get a good mechanical polar alignment. PSAlign pro has been mentioned. It works wonders in an iPhone. Yes you have to make sure the compass calibration is correct. Be sure your phone compass is set for true north not magnetic. This is also true if you are finding north with a regular compass. You must remove the magnetic declination for your area to point the compass to true north. Calibrate the phone compass by using the figure eight rotation method. My app tells me when the compass calibration is poor. PSAlign pro is used with the phone sitting in the telescope saddle bottom down, face to the sky. You need to make a jig to achieve this. Mike lemhious has made 3D printed design for achieving this which you can download and send off for fabrication to a place like 3D hubs or a friend with a 3D printer. He has. Aeolus posts about it with links. But it’s easy to make up something out of some wood. Just be sure the axes of the tray you make is square to the saddle etc so the phone is pointing dead along the line of sight. When you use PSAlign pro do not have the motors on the mount turned on. They generate a terrific magnetic field that will ruin you. With the phone in your cradle and PSAlign pro running make sure you have you mount in polar home. Then you adjust the az and alt bolts until the cross hair is centered. When it is you are pretty good polar aligned. So the above is one way that costs little and works pretty good If you don’t mind spending some money you can get almost perfectly polar aligned using an electronic device that fastens onto your scope ra axis. There are two out there, ipolar from ioptron or a polemaster. You can look them up. I use a polemaster because I had it to polar align my Meade lx200gps on wedge mount. It works Very well and you will be polar aligned to a high degree. If your mount is level and your polar home positions are good you will get excellent gotos after your first sync. No need for virtual alignment with the explorestars app. These devices cost about the same as a great eyepiece. For me it is an easy decision to spend the cash to facilitate all the rest. And since you polar align every time you go out you amortize that cost over many uses. And that is cost against all the lost time and the aggravation of trying to use the polar scope each time. There isn’t enough dark sky Time to waste fooling around with polar alignment. With polemaster or ipolar you will be polar aligned in a few minutes. And never be on your hands and knees. Sound good? If you are going to use exorestars by all means use the 2-3 star alignment for visual use. It will correct for polar alignment errors, level errors and ra home errors. I suggest you get your polar home correct tho and this will make your gotos better. If you are imaging with explorestars you better be at very short focal length. The virtual polar alignment only keeps the pointing in track during P mode (point mode). It this mode basically points the scope 5 times a second so there will be jitters noticeable if the fl is much longer than a couple of hundred mm. If you run explorestars in T mode (track) the mount only goes along in ra. So basically the 2-3 star alignment is not used. So you are probably stuck with PMode unless you guide. So that is my two cents. If you have the money and insist on great polar alignment get an ipolar or a polemaster. If not try to get yourself set up with PSAlign pro. Baring that do short focal length exposures with explorestars in P mode. Or some mix with guiding. Or you can fight through figuring out polar alignment with a polar scope. People do get good at it. Wes -- Wes, Southport NC EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100 ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC 110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power Electrical Engineer, Retired
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Hi guys. Gonna be nervous when the mount arrives and I take it out. Hope all my problems are solved. Bill I really do hope it all works for you.
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On 4 Sep 2020, at 20:22, Tyler Bowman - Explore Scientific Customer Service <Tyler@...> wrote:
-- Michael Whitaker Wakefield, UK. MOUNTS. Exos-2 PMC Eight.. SCOPE: RVO Horizon 72ed. CAMERA: Not Applicable. SOFTWARE: Just iPad at moment.
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Perfect bill let me know.
From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Kinnair via groups.io <kinnawill@...>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:55 PM To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue. Thank you Tyler I will definitely chuck some questions at you if I need to. Looks like I might have a gap in the sky tonight so going to test a few ideas I'll get back if I have success.
Thanks Bill Bill Kinnair West Midlands UK Mounts: EXOS-2 PMC-8 GOTO Scopes: Skywatcher 200PDS + Skywatcher Skyliner 200p Cameras: ZWO ASI120MC + Canon EOS 1300D Software: ExplorerStars, Backyard ESO, ASIStudio, AutoStakkert, PIPP, RegiStax 6, PolarAlignment PRO
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Bill Kinnair <kinnawill@...>
Thank you Tyler I will definitely chuck some questions at you if I need to. Looks like I might have a gap in the sky tonight so going to test a few ideas I'll get back if I have success.
Thanks Bill Bill Kinnair West Midlands UK Mounts: EXOS-2 PMC-8 GOTO Scopes: Skywatcher 200PDS + Skywatcher Skyliner 200p Cameras: ZWO ASI120MC + Canon EOS 1300D Software: ExplorerStars, Backyard ESO, ASIStudio, AutoStakkert, PIPP, RegiStax 6, PolarAlignment PRO
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Re: EXOS2-GT PMC8 new user questions
#EXOS2
#FIRMWARE
#windows10
#iPadOS
1.You only way to update the firmware is through the serial.
2. you can always update the firmware regardless wifi or what ever way you have it hooked up as long as you have it connected through Serial to the computer.
3. all you will need is the configuration manager, unless your using a MAC or Linux.
If there is anything else please let me know.
From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> on behalf of fxdc92 via groups.io <fxdc92@...>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:16 PM To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> Subject: [ESPMC-Eight] EXOS2-GT PMC8 new user questions #EXOS2 #FIRMWARE #windows10 #iPadOS Hello everyone,
I should have my new EXOS2-GT PMC8 tomorrow (Saturday, 9/5/2020). While I wait for the mount i have been reviewing all available documentation and videos available. I have also joined this group and review each topic every day that I can. I have downloaded ExplorStars and have placed the database in my "Pictures" folder. I have also installed the PMC8 ASCOM drivers on my Windows10 PC. I will be using my iPad Pro with ExplorStars initially to test to ensure the system works I have a few questions: 1. All of the documentation and videos that i have read and viewed state that the firmware of the PMC8 controller can only be updated via a hardwired serial cable (using the FTDI chipset), is this still the case (cannot update firmware via direct WiFi connection)? I do have the proper cable, I just want to ensure that I upgrade the firmware (when needed) the proper way. 2. If the above question is true, I am assuming the PMC8 controller must be put into serial mode using a direct WiFi connection first using the PMC Configuration Manager program before firmware updates can be done - correct? 2a. When the firmware updates are completed and I want to go back to using WiFi, I use the Configuration Manager (mount now connected using serial) to send the WiFi command to the controller? 3. The Configuration Manager program replaces the need for any additional terminal programs ? (Putty, etc) Thanks for all of the support! Steve
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Re: Slew Errors
#EXOS2
#ExploreStars
Great news and go enjoy that mount and have fun,
It's Exciting to hear a successful story from another customer.
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EXOS2-GT PMC8 new user questions
#EXOS2
#FIRMWARE
#windows10
#iPadOS
Steve
Hello everyone,
I should have my new EXOS2-GT PMC8 tomorrow (Saturday, 9/5/2020). While I wait for the mount i have been reviewing all available documentation and videos available. I have also joined this group and review each topic every day that I can. I have downloaded ExplorStars and have placed the database in my "Pictures" folder. I have also installed the PMC8 ASCOM drivers on my Windows10 PC. I will be using my iPad Pro with ExplorStars initially to test to ensure the system works I have a few questions: 1. All of the documentation and videos that i have read and viewed state that the firmware of the PMC8 controller can only be updated via a hardwired serial cable (using the FTDI chipset), is this still the case (cannot update firmware via direct WiFi connection)? I do have the proper cable, I just want to ensure that I upgrade the firmware (when needed) the proper way. 2. If the above question is true, I am assuming the PMC8 controller must be put into serial mode using a direct WiFi connection first using the PMC Configuration Manager program before firmware updates can be done - correct? 2a. When the firmware updates are completed and I want to go back to using WiFi, I use the Configuration Manager (mount now connected using serial) to send the WiFi command to the controller? 3. The Configuration Manager program replaces the need for any additional terminal programs ? (Putty, etc) Thanks for all of the support! Steve
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Re: Polar alignment
alandebrut
Hi Ken,
Did you get around to writing the collimating procedure for the polar scope? Regards Alan -- Explore Scientific: Telscope AR102, F6.5 Exos 2, PMC8 (awaiting delivery) Celestron SE8 plus mount Starsense Canon 80D
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Re: Slew Errors
#EXOS2
#ExploreStars
Well good news everyone, I think I have it. There were indeed two problems.
1/ Although it worked fine when I mounted my camera, ATP seems to have changed Long from West to East. I put it back. 2/ I avoided doing a plate solve at the NCP. I did one at Navi about 30 degrees away. Then I slewed to M31, had to plate solve again and re slewed, Andromeda was in the tracking scope and in the main scope. Just fined tuned it and was dead on. Finally have it working and was able to enjoy an evening of observing thanks to all of you. Here is the result of 30 stacked and cleaned 60 second exposures... Now I can fine tune my photoshop skills without struggling with the mount! -- Bob T Mt. Pleasant, MI Orion EON 110//Exos2-PMC8 Meade LX 10" SCT (Pride of the 90's) with LX Drive/Alt-Az Push To 25 x 100 Astronomy Binoculars with Stand ZWO 110 and 294 APT Sharpcap Stellarium
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Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do.
#G11
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#EXOS2
Mario
Hi Henry, we created a guide to help with this. You'll need to join the group to access the link. Regards, Mario
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:42 AM Henry Staub <hkstaub@...> wrote: Would you please help me or suggest someone who can. I need to figure out how to connect my EXOS2 to ASIAir Pro.I can get the camera to work but no connection to mount. It is connected to the ASIAir Pro using the FTDI cable that links back to the ASIAIR unit. --
Regards, Mario Streetsville, Ontario Mounts: iExos 100, Skyguider Pro Scopes/Lenses: Main/Orion 80mm, DSLR/Tamron 18-400mm lens, guide/ZWO-340A Computer: ASIAir Cameras: Canon T2i DSLR, ZWO120MM (guide) Utility Software: iPolar (for Skyguider polar alignment), iCap, Explorestars, Canon EOS Utility Image Processing Software: Photoshop
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Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do.
#G11
#astrophotography
#iEXOS-100
#EXOS2
Henry Staub
Would you please help me or suggest someone who can. I need to figure out how to connect my EXOS2 to ASIAir Pro.I can get the camera to work but no connection to mount. It is connected to the ASIAir Pro using the FTDI cable that links back to the ASIAIR unit.
Your kind help would be appreciated. Henry Staub
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Re: #EXOS2 #pmc-eight Unable to get my new mount to work
#EXOS2
#pmc-eight
alandebrut
Hi,
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I cant get my new mount working either, no noise or anything. Just wondered, in the Explorestars app when you opened it did you get the 4 star compass in the left hand windowI I dont and I dont know why, but I can see the objects/database etc But it just does not connect to the PMC8 so no movement from the mount whatsoever! Thanks Alan
-- Explore Scientific: Telscope AR102, F6.5 Exos 2, PMC8 (awaiting delivery) Celestron SE8 plus mount Starsense Canon 80D
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Re: #EXOS2 #pmc-eight Unable to get my new mount to work
#EXOS2
#pmc-eight
Joe Rigby
Hi Tim, I am on Windows 10, and had put the database in the pictures folder.
I restarted my computer, reset the wi-fi connection, then connected to the wi-fi of the PMC-Eight and then opened the ExploreStars app. The mount is now responding! The problem it seems is that the PMC-Eight wi-fi needs to be connected before launching the ExploreStars app. If I launch the app first, and then connect to the PMC-Eight wi-fi, then it doesn't work Thanks for the help! All good now.
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Re: EXOS2 PMC-Eight Polar Alignment issue.
Hey Bill,
I struggled for awhile to get the polar alignment routine down and it still beats me some of the time. The key is not to get discouraged were all here to help you in any way we can. If your still having trouble you can send me a email at Tyler@... I want you to succeed at this amazing journey.
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Re: Slew Errors
#EXOS2
#ExploreStars
Hi Bob,
I was reading that your scope goes in the wrong direction and I have to ask the obvious question: Do you have your longitude set correctly? I am at about the same longitude as you here in Kentucky and I have mine set to 84 degrees WEST longitude. Is it possible that you have yours set to EAST? Just want to rule out the easy things first. Mike -- Location: Nicholasville, KY Mount: Explore Scientific Exos-2 Scope: Explore Scientific ED102CF, Orion 60mm guidescope Camera: QHY163C and QHY5L-ii Filter: Optolong L-eNhance 2" Software: ASCOM, PHD2, CDC, Stellarium, Sharpcap Pro, NINA, Deep Sky Stacker, Affinity Photo, Lightroom Computer: ASRock X570 Steel Legend, AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, 3600Mhz Extras: Lots of 3D printed parts I designed for improved usability
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