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Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Dallin
 

Thank you to all who have been trying to help. Ultimately I would like to connect wired via serial and utilize NINA. However, I would like to learn to connect via either. Attached are my PMC8 ASCOM driver settings.

When using the CM with the serial connected I get the COM3 option. When I push "find" it says that "PMC8 is connected via com port - this does not mean you mount is connected via serial"

When I push "do it" the CM says  "the mount does not appear to be connected. Please check you settings and network connection.

Under the advanced tab with TPC selected I push ESGv and get the following error "unable to send command"

Under the advanced tab with serial selected I push ESGv and the message box says "received" but the mount connection method remains at "NONE"

attached are screenshots of each step and error/message.


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Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, at 17:52, LuckyDuck wrote:
Hey Bob and Wes,

thanks for your comments. Guiding equipment is definitely the next on the invest list, but for now there is a lot else to learn.
Will try to find the tuning paper Wes mentioned. I am curious.

clear skies!
Lukas
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Mounts
: ES PMC-8 EXOS-2
Scopes: ES AR152 refractor, Tamron zoom-lens 70-300 mm
Cameras:  Sony a6000
Msc: none
Software: Siril, Affinity Photo, Sony Remote Control

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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

LuckyDuck
 

Hey Bob and Wes,

thanks for your comments. Guiding equipment is definitely the next on the invest list, but for now there is a lot else to learn.
Will try to find the tuning paper Wes mentioned. I am curious.

clear skies!
Lukas
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Mounts
: ES PMC-8 EXOS-2
Scopes: ES AR152 refractor, Tamron zoom-lens 70-300 mm
Cameras:  Sony a6000
Msc: none
Software: Siril, Affinity Photo, Sony Remote Control


Re: Polar Alignment Scope - EXOS2-GT PMC-Eight

Cyril Bonnett
 

Hi
Opticstar and Bresser sold the same mount and telescopes, opticstar manual for the mount is here  http://www.opticstar.com/download/Astro/Doc/mounts/Opticstar/Opticstar_EQ1300_GT_user_manual.pdf

While it is the basic mount the polar alignment is better explained, i thought so than that with the exos 2.
Have a look as see if it helps
Cyril.


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

 

Lukas,
 
+1 on Guiding.  When I first got my mount, I saw guiding as a complication.  Then Steve, my dealer, talked me into trying it. 
Turned out I had it backwards - guiding simplifies things!  
 
If you're getting decent 30s unguided exposures, you may be able to do better with some work on adjustments and technique, but you're already doing pretty well.  Unguided, these mounts perform pretty much where the price point would indicate.  Guide, and they can do much, much better than that.  
 
- Bob
 
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

Lukas

The mount has about 30 arc seconds of periodic error which will cause your stars to smear.  The period is 600 seconds, and thus 30-60 seconds is all you can expect, especially at 1000mm FL.  Get yourself a guide scope and you will be fine.  The exos 2 can take it.  BTW the belts don't need to be tightened in all likelihood.  Read over Bob Hoskins paper on tuning, located in the files section of mounts (or main) subgroup.  Not sure where.  It explains some of the adjustments that are appropriate if you are interested.

But guide that puppy.

Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

LuckyDuck
 

Hi guys,

thanks for sharing all that awesome shots! Thats a great motivation for beginners like me. I got a exos2 with pmc-eight for christmas and had finally the first clear nights for testing the rig.

The telescope I am using is a explore scientific ar152 with 988mm focal length. I guess its on the upper side on the load this mount can handle, but its the only available for photography I have right now. I use a stock sony a6000 camera. I dont have a field flattener. also no guiding yet.

I chose the orion nebula as an easy target to start with. Here is the image data in compact form:

Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Telescope: explore scientific ar152
Focal lenght: 988 mm
Camera: Stock Sony A6000
ISO: 640
Exposure time: 350x10s

I only used bias and flats for image processing in siril

this is my result:


I noticed, that the stars are quite big in the blue channel. I guess this is where you notice its an achromat instead of an apochromat refractor. I recently noticed a video from astrobackyard. He processes rgb images from dslrs in each channel separately. In that why you can shrink the stars in the blue channel to the correct size.
In the actual 16bit tiff image the three stars in the nebula core are very distinct. In the jpg this detail information is lost a little bit.

Exposures of 30s also work quite well for me with this heavy telescope on that little mount. I get problems above though. I'm not sure if it is polar alignment. I think no, because the star trails change direction in each image. I will try to tighten the belts, but maybe thats just the load limit of the mount.

cheers and clear skies!
Lukas


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

LuckyDuck
 

Hi Dallin,

I guess Doug asked the right question: do you want to connect via wifi or serial? both at the same time is not possible. also with esrial you have to you ascom instead of the explorestars app.

My guess is, that you actually want to use the explorestars app via wifi.

To check if you are affected by the mentioned connection issue please check your current ip-settings via command line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkoX0rxIxY
Important are the settings of your wifi controller.

if yes, follow the steps of the following video to set a static ip-adress properly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVdN1_YHE4A

best regards
Lukas


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Andrew Houseman
 

Also, make sure everything is connected BEFORE powering up the PMC8.  If you connect the serial cable to an already powered on mount, it won't do anything.

I also find the main connection page to be cryptic and unhelpful.  Go to the advanced tab.

Under communication method, click TCP then click the "version (ESGv!)" Button. 

The mount should reply with *HELLO*ESXO!.  
Switch to Serial and click version again. It will have no response.

Now click back to TCP and the Wired/Wireless toggle.
Now Version + TCP will respond with just *HELLO* and Version + serial will respond with a long version number.

Provided you got that long version number back, you should now be good to go for serial control


On Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 8:56 PM Dallin <Vaught427@...> wrote:
Hi Doug, when I click on the com port without a serial cable attached the CM doesn't give me any options to select. It is just a blank field. Is there a way to make it say com3?

Cheers
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Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Doug Doonan
 

Darin,
Are you trying to use a wifi connection?
Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Dallin <Vaught427@...>
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2021 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Hi Doug, when I click on the com port without a serial cable attached the CM doesn't give me any options to select. It is just a blank field. Is there a way to make it say com3?

Cheers
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Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars

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Doug Doonan
HomeBru  6 inch Reflector  f 6.6
HomeBru  85 mm Refractor  f 5.6
PMC-8, EXOS 2
Long retired EE.


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Dallin
 

Hi Doug, when I click on the com port without a serial cable attached the CM doesn't give me any options to select. It is just a blank field. Is there a way to make it say com3?

Cheers
--
Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Doug Doonan
 

Hi Dalin,
On my setup I usually have the COM port set to COM3. That might help in this case.
Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Dallin <Vaught427@...>
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2021 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Unfortunately I am still having the connection issue after updating the PMC8 wifi settings.  Attached are the settings I change to and the message the CM is giving me. Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

cheers,
--
Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars

--

Doug Doonan
HomeBru  6 inch Reflector  f 6.6
HomeBru  85 mm Refractor  f 5.6
PMC-8, EXOS 2
Long retired EE.


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Dallin
 

Unfortunately I am still having the connection issue after updating the PMC8 wifi settings.  Attached are the settings I change to and the message the CM is giving me. Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

cheers,
--
Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Re: Polar Alignment Scope - EXOS2-GT PMC-Eight

TeeJayBee
 

Found a simpler method for anyone struggling, this is still not going to be as accurate as plate solving with Sharpcap, Polemaster or iPolar but it should get you close enough thanks to Jeffrey but with a little added for us novices
http://fornaxmounts.com/media/wysiwyg/fornax/manuals/FMPS-10-manual.pdf

 

If you're struggling to see Kochab (which could be easy if you're in a Bortle 4/5 + zone) you can also use an app such as Polefinder for android, I set the reticle in the app to be the same as my Sky Watcher, using that app it will use your GPS location and current time to show where Polaris should be on a circle in the reticle, this circle represents a clock so for example if it shows polaris to be at 3 O'clock then position the 40 60 deg line which has the hole where you place Polaris at 3 O'clock by rotating the RA axis of the mount then simply adjust your Alt and Az mount screws to get Polaris into the hole on the line


Re: Polar Alignment Scope - EXOS2-GT PMC-Eight

TeeJayBee
 

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 06:54 AM, Jeffrey SpyV wrote:
http://fornaxmounts.com/media/wysiwyg/fornax/manuals/FMPS-10-manual.pdf
Many thanks, that looks far easier and will get me started before I begin to mess around with Sharpcap plate solving and having to take my laptop out in the field

Terry


Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

Leigh:

You are a Steely Eye'd Rocket Man!  Works a treat!
Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Andrew Houseman
 

Nope. This procedure will change only the PMC8 wifi connection.


On Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 2:56 PM Dallin <Vaught427@...> wrote:
Andrew, Thank you for the reply! I will try that fix tonight. Will I need to change settings back after connecting to the mount in order to use my home wifi again? 

Thanks again for the help.
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Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Dallin
 

Andrew, Thank you for the reply! I will try that fix tonight. Will I need to change settings back after connecting to the mount in order to use my home wifi again? 

Thanks again for the help.
--
Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Re: Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Andrew Houseman
 

there is a bug in Win 10 causing an incompatibility with out of the box settings.

before connecting to the mount
Right click on the wifi icon from the tray->open network & internet settings
select Wi-Fi then Manage Known Networks
select the PMC8 network
under IP settings, click edit
change to Manual
IPv4 On
IP address 192.167.47.11
Subnet Prefex Length 24
Gateway 192.168.47.1
Preferred DNS 192.168.47.1
Alternate DNS 192.168.1.1
IPv7 Off
Save


On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 2:39 PM Dallin <Vaught427@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have been using/learning the ES EXOS2 PMC-8 with my Ipad Mini since June for visual use. My setup is working great with the IPAD Mini However, I just purchased a new Dell XPS 9300 with Windows 10 home edition to operate the EXOS2 PMC-8 for astrophotography. I am unable to connect my laptop to the mount via WIFI or USB FTDI chipset Serial cable. I have downloaded the CM, disabled my firewall, and enabled the port. 64 bit PMC8 drivers are installed and FTDI chipset drivers are installed. I cannot connect via Configuration Manager. The CM shows that I am connected to the PMC8 WIFI network but connection shows "unknown' or "none" and will not communicate with the mount when I check for connection or press "do it."  I have the EXOS2 mount is selected in the CM.  When I try to connect via wired connection, it brings up com3 port but again will not connect to the mount when I select "do it" Any thoughts?


--
Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars


Unable to connect wifi or serial to Windows 10 laptop

Dallin
 

Hi,

I have been using/learning the ES EXOS2 PMC-8 with my Ipad Mini since June for visual use. My setup is working great with the IPAD Mini However, I just purchased a new Dell XPS 9300 with Windows 10 home edition to operate the EXOS2 PMC-8 for astrophotography. I am unable to connect my laptop to the mount via WIFI or USB FTDI chipset Serial cable. I have downloaded the CM, disabled my firewall, and enabled the port. 64 bit PMC8 drivers are installed and FTDI chipset drivers are installed. I cannot connect via Configuration Manager. The CM shows that I am connected to the PMC8 WIFI network but connection shows "unknown' or "none" and will not communicate with the mount when I check for connection or press "do it."  I have the EXOS2 mount is selected in the CM.  When I try to connect via wired connection, it brings up com3 port but again will not connect to the mount when I select "do it" Any thoughts?


--
Dallin McLaws
Location: 
Vail, AZ
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight EXOSII 
Scopes: Omegon 110 F6 FPL-53 ED APO CF
Cameras:  Nikon D850
Operating System: Dell XPS Windows10 / Ipad Mini
Software: ExploreStars

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