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Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

brian skinner
 


-- Hi Wes, as we say over here the plot thickens. First the app/database problem. I understand the need to load the database onto the SD card. I am afraid after several reload attempts from Playstore, the latest app is still not opening the database- I'm getting the (standard?) sqlite flash message indicating the problem. Database path is storage/sdcard/explorestars/image.... two things have sprung to mind, first the latest app settings page indicates  database path as storage/3752-3562/explorestars/.... ie not sdcard. I don't whether that is relevant? Also I haven't used an sdcard USB connector, I don't have one and have had no problems in the past, I drag the unzipped database from my windows 10 pc over to my tablet via the standard tablet USB Cable. Could this be an issue this time round? The database appears complete at around 80megs and the image directories all open correctly...
Secondly, I'm now experiencing mechanical issues with my mount! First off, if I submit an RA/DEC coordinate from the App coordinate page the mount slews correctly, however when I input a second set of coordinates the mount doesn't (re)slew and in fact doesn't park either, it just hangs......
Any advise is, as always, very welcome. Kind regards, Brian




Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Leigh Caldwell
 

Robert's answer earlier in the thread is the one to read. Instead of connecting all your programs direct to the mount, you just connect the Hub to the mount. Then all your other programs connect to the Hub.

The Hub in ASCOM has been renamed from POTH (Plain-Old-Telescope-Hub) to "ASCOM Device Hub", so if you find forum posts or blog articles from before 2020, they will probably refer to POTH. Just replace with 'Device Hub' and you will be fine.

Once you have run the ASCOM Device Hub and connected it to the mount, you can then start your other programs. in PHD2 and NINA, when you select which mount you want to connect to, you choose 'Device Hub Telescope' (or something similar - it might be slightly different for each program but hopefully it will be clear which one it is).

The Device Hub can have as many programs connected as you want, and it will pass on the messages to the mount - so that the mount doesn't get confused getting multiple signals from different programs.


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Sebastian
 
Edited

Use Ascom „Hub“ for more than 1 device. You have to configure the pmc8 telescope in the hub then you can choose the hub in Nina telescopes and Phd2.


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Andreas
 

Is this true? I have the same problem that i am not able to connect to multiple programs via Ascom. But i hoped that the solution is a cable with a FTDI Chip. I need a connection to NINA for PlateSolving and to PHD2 for Guiding.

Regards
Andreas


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

Doug Doonan
 

Hi TeeJay Bee
 I sent a reply to your earlier mail about your problem.
I would be happy to help you in private email, if you'd like.
We could talk if your interested.
Doug Doonan
dougdwd@...



-----Original Message-----
From: TeeJayBee <vdsr.tb@...>
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Sent: Mon, Mar 15, 2021 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #ASCOM #EXOS2

Yes Sebastian, however I'm getting started with Ascom as at some point I know I'm going to need to start guiding rather than just tracking, up til now I have just been entering co-ordinates in ES but I am limited o an absolute maximum of 2 minutes exposures if I get a good enough polar alignment, I was hoping to be able to do more and get better signal to noise ratio
I'm beginning to think that this system maybe be a bit too geeky/techy for me and that I might need something a little more user friendly, it would be a shame to jump ship as I'm a glutton for things that are different but the setting up of this is starting to go down an endless rabbit hole LOL
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EXOS 2 PMC-Eight
Fujifilm X-T2
Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary
Vixen VMC-110L

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Doug Doonan
HomeBru  6 inch Reflector  f 6.6
HomeBru  85 mm Refractor  f 5.6
PMC-8, EXOS 2
Long retired EE.


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

Terry
 

Yes Sebastian, however I'm getting started with Ascom as at some point I know I'm going to need to start guiding rather than just tracking, up til now I have just been entering co-ordinates in ES but I am limited o an absolute maximum of 2 minutes exposures if I get a good enough polar alignment, I was hoping to be able to do more and get better signal to noise ratio

I'm beginning to think that this system maybe be a bit too geeky/techy for me and that I might need something a little more user friendly, it would be a shame to jump ship as I'm a glutton for things that are different but the setting up of this is starting to go down an endless rabbit hole LOL
--
EXOS 2 PMC-Eight
Fujifilm X-T2
Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary
Vixen VMC-110L


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

Wes Mcdonald
 

Brian:

I loaded the app on a new android (old TAb A ) and put my old database micro sd into it and the thing runs great.

You still have to load the database onto the micro sd card...or alias your main memory somehow which I saw once on the forum...
Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: New BETA Test Subgroup Available #ASCOM #ExploreScientific #FIRMWARE

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

I wanted to update everyone about the status of the PMC-Eight Universal Firmware BETA test program.

Today I am packaging up the files to share on the Beta Test subgroup for those who have subscribed. I have not yet approved all those who have joined the forum but will do that shortly.

If you are still interested in joining in on the fun of testing the new PMC-Eight Universal Firmware please join the subgroup.

Thanks!
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Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

 

TeeJayBee,
 
The PMC8 keeps track of motor counts on its axes and knows where it is pointed, in those terms.  It doesn't know about stars.  It may not be obvious at first, but that really is a feature, not a bug.  
 
The astronomical information is back in your control program (CdC, Stellarium, whatever).  The driver translates between them.  The PMC8's command language is described in the PMC8 Programmers Reference document.  This is available either here in the FILES section, or embedded in your ASCOM driver install, if you checked the 'sources' box when you installed. 
 
- Bob
 
--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

Sebastian
 

No. The 1-3 star alignment will be lost,  after you connect via Ascom .  But  you can  enter any RA/DEC coordinates manually in Explore Stars and slew there. 

 


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

Terry
 

Would it not work if I used Explore Stars to carry out a 3 star alignment after a polar alignment then close explore stars and connect via Stellarium?
I ask as I dont have a camera that connects to my laptop, I just want to use my Mirrorless camera for imaging up to max 2 minutes with various lenses but would like reasonably accurate go to's

I'm kind of hoping that the star map is stored in the PMC-Eight and Stellarium sends the co-ordinates to go to via Ascom-POTH? but that it's the PMC-Eight which decides where those co-ordinates are ?


Re: Newbies request for help again

alandebrut
 

Hi Jeff,

Not heard if you have resolved your problem?

But for what is its worth you are not going to get anywhere if you can't visually find Polaris,
in very layman terms may I suggest that at mid day the sun will be south (at least it is in the UK) so turn around with the sun at your back, hopefully you can see your shadow directly in front of you, make a mental note on a fence or building in front of you that you can see at night time.

At night time find your point on the fence or building and look up in the sky and search for the Big Dipper using your IEXOS 100 manual, turn to page 19 and there is a simple diagram of the Big Dipper with Polaris,
you should be able to find it now and approximately where Polaris is.

To further assist in finding Polaris or any other stars don't look at any bright lights, in fact turn off any of your house lights if you can and spend quite a bit of time looking at the night sky, you will be surprised at how many stars you can actually see after your eyes have adjusted, on a clear night the Big Dipper is quite easy to see, follow the diagram to find Polaris, I should point out the Big Dipper moves around Polaris like a clock hand, the shape stays the same but it could be upside down.

There are many videos on Youtube that might assist as well.

I hope this gets you started but be warned this hobby is a massive learning curve to begin with.

Good luck
Alan
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Warrington
UK

Explore Scientific:
Telescope AR102, F6.5
Exos 2, PMC8 
QHY PoleMaster
ZWO Electronic Auto-focuser
Altair 290C

Celestron SE8 plus mount
Starsense
Sharpcap Pro
CDC
Stellarium
APT
Firecapture

Canon 80D


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

brian skinner
 

-- Hi guys, to add to this debate, I have very recently reloaded/updated the  ExploreStars app (as recommended by previous message from Jerry) onto my Android 10 Tab A and am unable now to successfully run the database. Either the App doesn't open the database at all or I get an ExploreStars flash message telling me the app has stopped working.... I'm thinking there is a problem with this latest version of the App and hope there is an answer to this somewhere.... Thankyou, Brian


Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Dave Cherry
 

Thanks Frank.
Glad you're inspired! :)
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Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED
Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope
Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 
Edited

Hi Keith,

My system has OS Version 20H2 Build 19042.804 and ExploreStars works fine. Windows 10 Professional.
It appears that you are using older builds. It appears that you are using version 1909 with build 18063.
Windows 10 version history (version 1909) - Wikipedia

Here are a list of versions from Wikipedia
Windows 10 version history - Wikipedia

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Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Frank Rich
 

WOW!! Dave these provide me inspiration when I finally get my WO61 rig complete. I’m waiting on an EXOS100
Thanks for sharing

Frank
Orion 8”newt
ES AR127
WO 61 APO
EXOS2


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Dave Cherry
 

Some very nice galaxy images from you guys
I never seem to have much luck with them! 
I'm Just about to change back to the newt and have another go this year.
I was keeping the 72ED on the PMC to grab Andromeda but I'm not satisfied with any result yet.

Anyway I thought I'd share my last 72ED shots with you guys.

These are all pretty much processed the same as I usually do 
About 3 hours of data re-stacked in sharpcap using the monitor folder Cam
then I use Darktable and Gimp
Filter = LX eXtream  Cam = ASI294 MC PRO

As usual the, PMC mount performed very well :)

These are all small jpegs to save space space on the server!
Cheers!

Dave Cherry.

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Scopes: Sky Watcher 200PDS, Skywatcher 72ED
Mount: Explore Scientific PMC8 EXO2
Cameras: ASI 294MCPRO Coooled, Altair guide cam + 50mm scope
Software: Sharpcap Pro ,PH2, Stelarium Startools


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

Keith <trashbin369@...>
 

I do not know exactly which Windows 10 update BROKE Explorestars, but I have two builds running, build 18363.1171 (explorestars works great) and 18363.1411 (does not work).


Re: Android and Amazon Fire ExploreStars has been updated #ExploreStars #ExploreScientific

Patrick Maher
 

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 03:50 PM, Luke wrote:
I agree totally with Jerry that ES  have to move their effort on the Android tablet and other portable platform. As long as you have ASCOM you are all set for windows.  More so now that the soon to be released updated ASCOM driver will have much better specs with improve ease of use. 
 
Explora stars is better suited to small tablet, quick visual observation,  not for imaging.  There is very good software out there ie "cartes du ciel" only to name one , that works perfectly fine and tracks extremely well using windows base computer.  The use of the ASIAIR, another way to do imaging, is a great match with the PMC8  system. 
I believe you missed my point.  I never said I was using ExploreStars on my Windows devices to do imaging.  That clearly was a wrong assumption by you.  I said that since I already use my Windows devices for ASCOM use, I wanted to continue to use my Windows devices for ExploreStars as well (for when I am just out there doing some observing and keeping things very simple.  Simple observing, such as using ExploreStars, is NOT what I would call the user experience when using ASCOM.  ASCOM has its purpose and that purpose is allowing multiple programs to link to one mount, one driver, which is not a simple observing thing like ExploreStars.  So do not direct me toward ASCOM in place of observing with ExploreStars especially considering ExploreStars is one of the primary reasons I purchased the iEXOS-100 over two years ago.  

There is always room for improvement and growth with any app and ExploreStars (on ALL platforms) is not exempt from that.  If you stagnate in the marketplace, you lose.  If the Windows ExploreStars app stagnates, I will naturally prefer to find a mount that is not being put on the back burner in some respect and I will subsequently look to replace my PMC-8 future expansion plans in my own home observatory.  

For what it's worth, using CDC as an example of "very good software" is not furthering your point either.  I despise CDC.  It is a clunky, old program with an absolutely frustrating user interface as well as an unappealing graphical interface.  Again, my comment was not at all directed toward ASCOM use anyway.  I am all set there with better programs.   My comment was directed toward observing with ExploreStars on Windows tablets.

Why do I insist on using Windows tablets?  I use Windows tablets to keep variables to a minimum.  I use Windows desktops/laptops/tablets for ASCOM, therefore I prefer to use Windows tablets for ExploreStars.  I don't use my Windows tablet solely for ExploreStars so I naturally desire compatibility of my tablets for all the data and software that I use on my desktops, laptops and tablets.  It is a matter of consolidating all my computers for more effective communication between those devices.  

One of the things that drew me to this product a couple of years ago was the diversity of the product's future.  My comment was due to disappointment in seeing that diversity waning recently which has been pointed out in this thread.

As far as your recommendation of ASIAir...  again, I was not commenting on the stagnation of Windows development as related to imaging.  It was about observing using Windows tablets using a program I enjoy, ExploreStars.  Also, why on Earth would I now want to start getting involved in such a closed system such as this ZWO-only closed system?  I was drawn to the PMC-8 system because it was an open system available on all operating systems.  As far as ASIAir...   I would rather support Stellarmate for all the points mentioned already.

Unfortunately, this thread is turning me off all the more in sticking with and supporting the PMC-8 system publicly as I have been actively doing for two years.  I believe I am done with this thread now.

To Jerry, thanks for the honest feedback and info.

Patrick

 
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Explore Scientific iEXOS-100 and EXOS-2GT (non-PMC)
Explore Scientific ED 102mm Refractor


Re: Connection issue #iEXOS-100 #ASCOM

Sebastian
 
Edited

There is a new Ascom Ver. 6.5 SP 1. The poth hub is outdated.

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