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Re: Unable to download App.

michaelrathburn@...
 

Again Thanks for the info Jerry.

The point that is odd to me is I have read the two discussions on cloudy nights and nobody talked about any Windows version.  

Maybe you should verify with the design team about this before changing any notices.

I have used Cartes du Ciel as well as Skytools and Starynight for a long time.  I've had Skytools since Windows XP and Starynight on Windows both are still working, no problems.  And these programs still receive support.  Though I have not had any problems with them.

It just surprised me, I do hope that Explore Stars has the same success.

The reason I am so interested in it is I am looking for a new mount.  Age has made me tired of lugged a 70lb. pier about.  Am looking into the EXOS 2 PMC mount.  I have opened dialog with Explore Scientific about this.

If I have to upgrade I will upgrade.

Thanks again,
Michael
 


Re: Unable to download App.

W. Christopher Moses
 

Frankly, It never even entered my mind that anybody would still be using Win7 for Astro gear. Windows 8 came out in 2012. With the amount we spend on this hobby, $100 for a new OS that gives you faster performance and more capabilities seems like a bargain.  Unless you have a specific reason not to upgrade, I strongly recommend you do.


Re: Unable to download App.

michaelrathburn@...
 

Chris,

Actually it is 200 to upgrade.

Just have not had a reason.  Things are working fine, I only upgrade when the need arises.  Maybe it has!

I really don't believe in upgrading to be upgrading.  
My whole career was in electronics and software research and development.
I am retired now.  
Maybe I view it a little differently.

Doesn't really matter, if I have to upgrade I will. LOL.

Thanks,
Michael


Re: Unable to download App.

W. Christopher Moses
 

I hear you.
As a software developer, I can honestly say that the jump from win7 to win10 is pretty significant in terms of stability, speed and features. It isn't without a small learning curve, but I really do think you will find it worthwile.  Of course, make sure your hardware can support it first.


Re: Unable to download App.

W. Christopher Moses
 

Also, I just checked Newegg.com and they still have Win10 Home OEM editions for sale for $99 and Pro OEM editions for $139.  Just FYI.


Re: Unable to download App.

michaelrathburn@...
 

Chris,

Thanks for the info.  I will check this out.

Unless Microsoft lied to me I can upgrade, according to their software packages my system meets requirements.

The whole reason I have not integrated my computer into my astronomy habit is because it was a little to hodge podge.  ESPMC Eight system really looks to streamline this integration.  Which is great!  I believe that the equipment should disappear when being used.

In this case it should drop into the background so that an individual can focus on the eyepiece or display and just enjoy.

Wonder if my age has something to do with this attitude.  LOL.

Anyway, thanks again,
Michael


Re: Unable to download App.

W. Christopher Moses
 

Jerry has expressed almost the exact same view in other threads.  And, I have always aspired to such a system.  That is one of the big reasons I went with the G-11 pmc-8.
So far, I love the system. There has been a small learning curve - if you have read the cloudy nights threads, you have seen it, but 99% of that really just amounted to documentation of exactly how things work. As an early adopter, and a software developer, I naturally want to push things to their limit.  Jerry has been great with helping me understand things. 


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

Ben K
 

Jerry,

Much obliged for yours answers and your time.

I'll be working with my local scope store to order the Exos 2GT - PMC8, tomorrow morning when they open.

Looking forward to learning more here and over on Cloudy Nights.

Ben


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

Hey Ben,

Nice to have you aboard.  The threads here and at CN cover most of the questions and issues I've come across, but I'm sure you'll come across something new.  I have a G-11, so I can't help with the mount itself, but let me know if you have any PMC-8 questions and I'll be  happy to share whatever I can.

Chris Moses


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

Ben K
 

Chris, thank you as well!

Yeah, I would go for the G-11 if I wasn't new to this, but I'm certain I'll get there in time, and my local scope store has experience with the exos 2 mount, so I imagine I'll be fine there.

Between myself and my wife (data scientist and software developer, respectively), I think we'll be both fairly resourceful but also very inquisitive.

Jerry, ordered my mount just now, I'll let the forum here know once I've got it, and so on. Only thing I know I'll be doing right off the bat is adding tiny glow-in-the-dark stickers to the index arrows and mounting the actual pmc8 assembly more securely. Once I rig up that mount, I'll take photos of it, if others want.

Thank you both!

Ben


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

Stickers are a good idea. I never thought of that. But, I've found the built-in levels are very, very sensitive. Probably more sensitive than looking at stickers. For resetting zero position, I will stick with them.

I put some painters tape on the bottom of the little metal wedge to keep it from scratching up the mount. And, I never figured out the velcro that came with it.  I just grabbed a long piece I had laying around. 

I just finished mounting a mini-pc on top of the mount.  Now I have the option of mounting the PMC-8 on top! To many options!


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

And, yes, please post picts of your rig. I  would love to see it


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

Ben K
 

Will do, re pictures.

What mini PC are you using, and how did you mount it?

Much obliged,

Ben


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

Ben K
 

Also, what do the levels have to do with the index marks? I thought the index marks were for setting it to proper base position before letting the motors take over? I've not played with a proper gem before, so I'm likely missing something.

I think I'm going to create another wedge like the one included with the pmc8, with a 3d printer, then sugru that to the pmc8, and then I'll be able to attach it with two straps. I'll have to see how heavy it is, and might come up with a better solution.


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

I was thinking that you were using the marks to indicate zero position. I.e - the mount being "Staight up and down."  The bubble levels perform this function. It isn't like many mounts where getting a good zero position is a chore.  You just release the clutches, line up the bubble levels and retighten the clutches.

At least that is how it is on the G-11. If you are using the Exos, then I'm not sure.


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

Hi,
I'm using an intel brand NUC (their name for a mini-pc)

Not sure if this is the exact model, but it is very close:


I have a dovetail bar on top of the scope and happened to have some extra guide scope rings around, so I took the dovetail clamp off of them and mount the mini-pc to that.  Right now, while I work on spacing and balancing issues, the mini-pc is held to the dovetail clamp by...velcro, lol.

The mini-pc does have a VESA mount with it. So, eventually I'll permanently attach that to the clamp.

I'll post some picture tonight over on CN.


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

What is the wedge for?


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

Ben K
 

From a video review, it looks like there is a metal wedge / attachment to the back of the PMC unit, that has a Velcro strap threaded through it. In the video, having only one attachment made things hang pretty loosely.

I was going to print a second wedge, attach that to the bottom of the PMC unit, and thread another strap through that, so I could secure it at two points. Will do three if needed, to keep it from banging around.

B


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

Hi,
Oh, cool. That would be handy. Please send me the url to file.

One thing I did was to put some painters tape on the bottom of the metal wedge do it wouldn't scrape the tripod's finish


Re: Basic Understanding of PMC-8

W. Christopher Moses
 

I was thinking about using some dense packing foam also. Cut one side to fir around the leg.