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Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

Wade....it nice in my book!
Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Wade Prunty
 

Here's another image taken with the iEXOS-100. It's nothing fancy, just a chunk of Sagittarius.



Target: Messier 8, Messier 20, Messier 21 and NGC 6559

Imaged and Processed by Wade Prunty with:

William Optics SpaceCat 51 APO Telescope
Explore Scientific iEXOS-100 Mount
Canon T3i DSLR
Optolong L-eNhance Filter
ZWO Mini Guide Scope
ZWO ASI120MM-S
ZWO ASIAIR Pro
84x120 Second Exposures
Bortle 9 Skies
PixInsight
Topaz Labs AI Suite

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Explore Scientific iEXOS-100
William Optics SpaceCat 51 APO
ZWO ASI183MM Pro, ASI533MC Pro
Canon 5D, T3i (Both Astro Mods)
William Optics UniGuide
ZWO ASI120MM-S
ZWO ASIAIR Pro


locked Re: ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro

Mario
 

Hi Henry, try this process....we put some instructions together when a few of us were trying to get the ASIAir working with the iExos.
Instructions/process is in this email below...but also attached as a PDF.

Regards,

Mario

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1)       Update iExos to enable the mini-USB port

 

Scenario: Do this when you want to control the mount via a serial cable (using the mini-USB on the mount) so it can be controlled via the ASIAir Pro

 

What you need:

Mini-USB to USB cable – about 12 to 18 inches long.

1)       Download the PCM8 utility from the ES download site here  (http://02d3287.netsolhost.com/pmc-eight/setup-pmc8.exe).

Just in case my link doesn't work, the main ES download page is here.

2)       Install the utility on your Windows laptop.

3)       Power up your mount.

 

What you need to do to: Using the PCM Eight Interface Utility:

1)       Connect a Mini-USB to USB cable from your mount to your windows PC

2)       Connect your windows PC to the mount via WIFI 

3)       On your windows PC start the PCM8 utility you just downloaded

- 2 screens should pop-up:

 

Main Screen                                         Settings Screen

(Just in case the Settings screen doesn't come up, you can access it from the Main screen by going to Edit and selecting 'Settings')

 

4)       On the Main screen - Go to Edit, from the drop-down ensure iExos 100 is CHECKED

5)       On the Main screen - Go to Edit, from the drop-down ensure Autoscan is CHECKED

6)       On the Main screen - Go to Edit from the drop-down, click on 'Switch'. (to go from wifi to serial)

 

It will attempt to switch your mount from WIFI to the mini-USB cable using COM8 first.

If it works, the Main screen will indicate it's worked and you're ready to move on to the next section below.
If it doesn't work on, on the Settings screen, change the serial port to COM3 and repeat step 6 (click 'Switch')

 

7)       On the Main screen you should now have a 'PCM-Eight is active on COMx' message:
You have successfully enabled the mini-usb on your mount :)

8)       Take the mini-USB cable that is currently plugged to your mount and to your PC- unplug it from your PC and plug into the ASIAir.

9)       Power on the ASIAIR & iEXOS-100 (in the Park Position - this is with the scope pointing

towards the pole and the counterweight straight down)

10)   iEXOS-100 should be connected to the ASIAIR via the same USB cable used to update firmware.

(Need to buy separately  - refer to picture)

11)   Open the ASIAIR app, go to the Telescope Settings page, at the top of the page from the drop-list choose:

‘Explore Scientific IEXOS100’ then tap the right switch to connect to the mount.

 

 

Note: The Serial: USB-RS232 and the Baud: 115200 should be filled automatically. If not refer to the picture above.

12)   You are done. You’ll know as the Serial indicator will switch to ‘USB-RS232’


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 3:11 PM Henry Staub <hkstaub@...> wrote:
So I am at the point where nothing I do connects to the mount.

Set Gonfig Mgr to Serial and flashed the cable so it thinks it is a serial cable.

1. on the PMC8 box i run serial cable to ASIAIR
2. PMC8 box picks up power from serial cable in the ASI box.
3 Using ASI software I set wifi to local 
4 11200 is baud rate
5. Setting the slider to green gives me error of no connection

This is grand fund some one help me please.

Thanks

Hank


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Regards,

Mario
Streetsville, Ontario

Mounts: iExos 100, Skyguider Pro
Scopes/Lenses: Main/Orion 80mm, DSLR/Tamron 18-400mm lens, guide/ZWO-340A
Computer: ASIAir
Cameras: Canon T2i DSLR, ZWO120MM (guide)
Utility Software: iPolar (for Skyguider polar alignment), iCap, Explorestars, Canon EOS Utility
Image Processing Software: Photoshop


locked Re: ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro

Mario
 

Hi Hank, 

I run the ASIAir Pro with the iExos 100.
Can you connect to the mount using a serial cable and the Explore Scientific configuration manager?
If so, in the config manager, can you confirm the connection type by clicking 'Do it' and reviewing the response in the screen at the bottom?

That's your starting point.

Once you have the mount in serial ...COM3 or COM8 etc...then the ASIAir Pro will find it also,
Just connect, start up the ASIAIR, go to the scope symbol at the top and then enable the scope/mount by moving slider in top-right to the on position.

But that serial connection needs to be confirmed via the ES Config Manager first.




On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 3:25 PM Tyler Bowman - Explore Scientific Customer Service <Tyler@...> wrote:
Did you switch the pmc box to serial before you switched the FTDI chip 

From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> on behalf of Henry Staub via groups.io <hkstaub=gmail.com@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:11 PM
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro
 
So I am at the point where nothing I do connects to the mount.

Set Gonfig Mgr to Serial and flashed the cable so it thinks it is a serial cable.

1. on the PMC8 box i run serial cable to ASIAIR
2. PMC8 box picks up power from serial cable in the ASI box.
3 Using ASI software I set wifi to local 
4 11200 is baud rate
5. Setting the slider to green gives me error of no connection

This is grand fund some one help me please.

Thanks

Hank


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Tyler Bowman - Customer Service

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Fax        +1(479) 717-2898


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Regards,

Mario
Streetsville, Ontario

Mounts: iExos 100, Skyguider Pro
Scopes/Lenses: Main/Orion 80mm, DSLR/Tamron 18-400mm lens, guide/ZWO-340A
Computer: ASIAir
Cameras: Canon T2i DSLR, ZWO120MM (guide)
Utility Software: iPolar (for Skyguider polar alignment), iCap, Explorestars, Canon EOS Utility
Image Processing Software: Photoshop


locked Re: ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro

Vijay <vijaysam@...>
 

I use ASI AIR with iExos 100 which also has the PMC8 system.

When you try to connect, on ASI AIR, just below "Telescope" next to "Serial" it should show something like USB-RS232 and your Baud rate after it which is 115200. Unless you see something next to "Serial" clicking on the slider will not connect. Even before you press the slider next to the telescope selected, you should have the green "Serial" identify your RS232 connection. I presume it should be mostly similar for EXOS2 as well.

Once in a while when I  connect, the serial connection does not properly show up. Most times I disconnect the connection to the mount and make sure its properly connected, when the RS232 serial connection pops up next to "Serial" on ASI AIR.


locked Re: ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro

Tyler Bowman - Explore Scientific Customer Service
 

Did you switch the pmc box to serial before you switched the FTDI chip 


From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io> on behalf of Henry Staub via groups.io <hkstaub@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:11 PM
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io <MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro
 
So I am at the point where nothing I do connects to the mount.

Set Gonfig Mgr to Serial and flashed the cable so it thinks it is a serial cable.

1. on the PMC8 box i run serial cable to ASIAIR
2. PMC8 box picks up power from serial cable in the ASI box.
3 Using ASI software I set wifi to local 
4 11200 is baud rate
5. Setting the slider to green gives me error of no connection

This is grand fund some one help me please.

Thanks

Hank


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Tyler Bowman - Customer Service

Office   +1(866) 252-3811 Ext: 516

Fax        +1(479) 717-2898


Re: About buying EXOS 2GT #EXOS2

Vijay <vijaysam@...>
 
Edited

Also, Is the latest EXOS2 with PMC 8 just the same old EXOS2 (white painted) mount with the hand controller upgraded to use the PMC 8 system or is it a completely new design? Looks still like the older EXOS2 for me though painted black?

What about mounting a Celestron RASA 8" which weighs 17lbs for the tube alone on this mount? Anyone any experiences?


locked Re: ES EXOS2 and ZWO ASI Air Pro

Henry Staub
 

So I am at the point where nothing I do connects to the mount.

Set Gonfig Mgr to Serial and flashed the cable so it thinks it is a serial cable.

1. on the PMC8 box i run serial cable to ASIAIR
2. PMC8 box picks up power from serial cable in the ASI box.
3 Using ASI software I set wifi to local 
4 11200 is baud rate
5. Setting the slider to green gives me error of no connection

This is grand fund some one help me please.

Thanks

Hank


About buying EXOS 2GT #EXOS2

Vijay <vijaysam@...>
 

I am thinking of buying an EXOS2 mount and planning to use with a 6" newtonian weighing around 13 pounds.
Some questions:
1. How well will this mount handle the load which could be around 18-20 pounds? I have seen some using 8" telescopes as well loading quite heavy. But it will be great what experience and advice anyone who has tried can share. I know this mounts load capacity is 28 pounds for astrophotography.
2. How does this mount stack against Orion Sirius, AVX or HEQ5 with same load capacity? What are the advantages/disadvantages with this mount?
3. How well does it work with ASI AIR if anyone had success with it? I have an iEXOS 100 mount already on ASI AIR as well. Is there anything specific I need to know to get EXOS2 working with ASI AIR?
4. Any other experience or advice around this mount.

Thanks,
-vijay


Re: possibly tracking issue near zenith #EXOS2

Wade Prunty
 

This looks to me like the mount got to a position where it could no longer carry the weight, and guiding couldn't make up for the difference. I've watched this happen in real time with my iEXOS-100, and rebalancing resolved the issue. My issue resulted in subs that looked identical to this.

A cable snag would do it too, but I'm thinking that is something you would have noticed.
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Explore Scientific iEXOS-100
William Optics SpaceCat 51 APO
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro, ASI533MC Pro
Canon 5D, T3i (Both Astro Mods)
William Optics UniGuide
ZWO ASI120MM-S
ZWO ASIAIR Pro


Re: ASCOM control question that I have not found an answer. #ASCOM #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

I believe those speeds are in ascompad.  Nina only provides those two. It is the same with Nina in a different mount so I am sure it is not the driver. In ascom one commands a slew and a rate I believe.   This is why in the ascom pad you do not get the ramp up and down.  

I limited my ascom pad max speed to prevent too much jerk upon startup and stop.

Wes 

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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Configuration Manager lockout #ConfigManager #iEXOS-100

Roger Laine
 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 08:19 AM, Yorksman wrote:

Similar thing happened to me, although i did have a cable connected, I couldn't get back to wifi.

 

Connect your PMC8 to your PC or Laptop via wifi. In CM, under connection settings leave it as G11, delete whatever it says in the field Com Port and type in COM3, this being the most usual. Then press refresh. This is important. Then, under How Do You Want to Connect, press Find Current Connection. It should come up with current connection unknown but the other connection buttons should now not be greyed out.

Thanks for the tips Yorksman: it did not work for me, so I will wait for the cable: it should arrive in the next day or two.  

My fault, as an ex-software consultant I have to ‘stress-test everything!!
 
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Roger, Atherstone, England, UK
Mount: ES iEXOS-100, Celestron NexStar SLT OTA: Celestron 127/1500 Mak , Svbony 60mm Guide scope
Camera: Svbony Sv305, Sv205


ASCOM control question that I have not found an answer. #ASCOM #EXOS2

Steve
 

Hello everyone,

So far, things have been going very good with my new mount. I was able to configure the PMC8 and control the scope with several ASCOM compatible software products. I also setup and was able to use ASCOMPAD with my wireless XBOX controller to slew the mount which is sweet!
My question is related to the manual slewing speeds that I see in the various ASCOM programs including ASCOMPAD. 

When I open ASCOMPAD and setup to use the POTH HUB (POTH is set to use the PMC8 driver) and I view the "Driver" info tab, I see 5 slew speeds for both the RA and DEC motors from 0.00 to 2.50.
Where are these values coming from, POTH HUB or is the POTH HUB passing those values on from the PMC8 driver from ES? 

I have successfully setup ASCOMPAD to change the slew speed using a few of the buttons on my controller and it works great. The reason for my question is because when I use other programs such as NINA (still using POTH), the manual slew values that I am able to choose from are 0.00 or 2.5, nothing in between. 

Thanks everyone, 
Steve

Thanks, 


Re: possibly tracking issue near zenith #EXOS2

Gernot Schreider
 

Thanks everyone for giving this some thinking and for your ideas.

I tend to agree that likely it has to do with the cable which connects the camera and the laptop. 
I will repeat the exercise tonight and this time I will pay close attention to cables or other possible issues.
I will update you on my findings.

Cheers
Gernot
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location: 49,55N, 7,89E; mount: EXOS-2 PMC8; telescope: Meade 8" ACF; guidescope: Orion 50mm, cameras: Sony Alpha 6000, ASI 120MC-S, laptop: Lenovo; OS: Windows 10 64bit, software: Stellarium, Sharpcap pro, Ascom platform, AstroTortilla, DeepSkyStacker


Re: Configuration Manager lockout #ConfigManager #iEXOS-100

Yorksman
 

Similar thing happened to me, although i did have a cable connected, I couldn't get back to wifi.

 

Connect your PMC8 to your PC or Laptop via wifi. In CM, under connection settings leave it as G11, delete whatever it says in the field Com Port and type in COM3, this being the most usual. Then press refresh. This is important. Then, under How Do You Want to Connect, press Find Current Connection. It should come up with current connection unknown but the other connection buttons should now not be greyed out.


Configuration Manager lockout #ConfigManager #iEXOS-100

Roger Laine
 

Hi Wise Heads of the Group

I am new to an iEXOS-100, and I do not currently have a serial cable, although I have ordered one.

I ‘messed about’ in Configuration Manager trying to establish an ASCOM 6.5 link to the mount without realising that POTH is still required.

The result is that all of my ‘switch’ options are now greyed out in CM, and although the PC is on the PMC-Eight network, I have no connection.  I guess I must have set the connection to ‘serial’.  Is there any way out of this bind without a cable?

Regards
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Roger, Atherstone, England, UK
Mount: ES iEXOS-100, Celestron NexStar SLT OTA: Celestron 127/1500 Mak , Svbony 60mm Guide scope
Camera: Svbony Sv305, Sv205


Re: possibly tracking issue near zenith #EXOS2

 

Gernot,
 
Whatever this is, I don't think that it has to do with your tracking *rate*.  
 
Notice the dumbbell shape of the bright star in the lower left corner?  Blob-streak-blob.  I'd interpret that as a good track, a jump, and back to a good track.  And whatever the jump was, it was quick - sudden.  You can barely see trails on M13 itself.
 
I'm with Patrick on perhaps something getting stuck, such as a cable.  You might also look for something shifting in your imaging train.  
 
But the 10 photos with the same effect is also a data point, and that makes me wonder if you (deliberately or accidentally) were using Sharpcap to dither, and just didn't get your settle time right.  You might have a look at that and if so, have a look/do a post, over on the Sharpcap forums.  
 
FWIW...
 
- Bob
 
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: possibly tracking issue near zenith #EXOS2

W.F.
 

Hello Gernot,
an other idea is, the telescope was not right balanced.
Greetings Wolfgang


Re: possibly tracking issue near zenith #EXOS2

Patrick Maher
 

Tracking at the zenith or very near the zenith with any equatorial mount is troublesome.  Even when trying to slew manually, by hand, it is very difficult to get it right.  That being said, this looks more like the mount had jerked back and forth because the scope or cables got hung up on something.  Another cause could be backlash showing more easily when near zenith because the weight is shifting from one side to the other but I think the backlash would need to be noticeably bad to result in what we see here.  

Incidentally, backlash is a routine adjustment that must be made on all tracking equatorial mounts.  This also would not be a unique problem to this particular mount.  Even if it was not the cause here, you should learn how to adjust the mount to eliminate backlash because you will need to do this adjustment at some time.  

Back to what we see in your image...  I'm leaning toward the scope or cables got jammed up on something.  If so, it would be probable that you might now also have a bit of a backlash issue to resolve.  

Patrick
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Explore Scientific iEXOS-100 and EXOS-2GT (non-PMC)
Explore Scientific ED 102mm Refractor


Re: iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight - cannot see from Polar Tunnel #polaralignment #pmc-eight #iEXOS-100

 

Hi Lloyd, thanks so much for quick reply me and suggestion!
Sorry I really didn't think about it!
This evening when I'll back home from work I'll try and update!
Thanks again and wishing clear skies from Livorno :-D 

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