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locked Re: ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...

Luke
 

Hi James, I do not own one either, but I can confirm  that EXOS 100 is in the list of supported mounts of the ASIAIR Pro, so is the EXOS 2 GT  PMC-8. Since the 100 does not use a FTDI cable, it might be easier to connect I would say as you do not need any programming of cable.
Luke


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Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...
 
I believe so, although I don’t own an exos100. 

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Mounts:       ES PMC-Eight G11 - upgraded with OPWB on both RA and DEC
                     EXOS-2 GT PMC-EIGHT
Scopes:       Televue NP127IS with HSM20 and focuser boss II - Questar field model 3.5 - Takahashi FC76 classic MC Starbase Tokyo edition - Takahashi FOA60Q - Zeiss telementor - Lomo Astele 150mm
Cameras:     ZWO ASI071 PRO
                     ZWO ASI 290
Misc:            Televue 0.8 X  Focal Reducer - ZWO ASIAIR-PRO
Eyepieces:  Pentax - Masuyama - Televue - Takahashi - Vixen
Software:     Starry night PRO 8  - Nebulosity - Topaz studio - Sharp cap


locked Re: ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...

Wes Mcdonald
 

The iexos is pretty much identical firmware to the exos2. Should be fine.  Maybe there is an asiair person out there with an iexos to weigh in

You asiair people are starting to make me think maybe that is how to go!  Cool

We’d

--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


locked Re: ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...

Matthew Krauft
 

I believe so, although I don’t own an exos100. 


locked Re: ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...

James Ball
 

This sounds very interesting, does the ASIAIR Pro work well with the iEXOS-100 also? 
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James Ball
Dawson Springs, Ky
Mounts: iEXOS-100
Scopes: Meade ETX90RA(deforked now) Sky Watcher 150MCT
Camera: ZWO ASI 120MC-S
Software: Explore Stars Android, ASCOM, Stellarium Scope, Stellarium, AS!3, SharpCap, RegiStax6.


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

zeccax@...
 

Hi Wes, 
1) thanks for that, I hope it will fix when my pmc8 wifi unit get fixed. 
2) that's what me and Jerry were talking about. settings can bet set in command mode, but as Jerry stated you can't go in command mode with the serial cable cause it's a rn131 thing and I don't have access to it.

I'm waiting for an answer about hardware reset so maybe the rn131 can start again and I can set it.

Filippo 


Re: Switching wifi/serial on android

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 05:26 PM, Omar Rahman wrote:
thanks for suggesting the procedure for switching wifi/serial in the field without a computer
HI Omar,  I am glad you were able to make use of that tip. Anything to help everyone use the PMC-Eight as they like! (within reason, LOL!)
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Switching wifi/serial on android

Omar Rahman
 
Edited

Hi Luke,
The problem I was having was before autorun. The mount would stop tracking during preview etc. Since I switched to b firmware it has worked flawlessly. Both the original Asiair and the Pro. 


Thanks for the tip!

Omar
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Scope:        
ES ED102
Mounts
:      ES EXOS2-PMC-8, SkyWatcher Star Adventurer
Cameras:   ASI1600MM Pro, Nikon D7500
Lens:
          Nikon 200-500mm, Tamron 70-200mm G2, Nikon 120mm manual lens
Misc:          ZWO ASI120Mini Guide Camera, ZWO 30mm mini guidescope, Stellarmate, Asiair
Software:  Kstars, SkySafari, ExploreStars (android), Pixinsight, DeepSkyStacker, Regim, Astrostakkert, LR/PS, RNC-color-stretch
Computer:  Macbook Pro, Surface Pro 4, iPhone, Fire 7


Re: Comments about the EXOS 2 PMC-Eight on CloudyNights #EXOS2

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 09:48 AM, Patrick Maher wrote:
f you are going to need to name another new mount in the future, please do not use the name of a previous mount in the naming nomenclature.  Using the EXOS2-GT naming nomenclature in the PMC-8 version's name has seriously confused everyone who knows to avoid the original EXOS2-GT. 
Hi Patrick,

Thank you for your thoughts on this. Just to let everyone know, I have been chastised in the past for notifying the moderators about certain comments from other vendors basically bad mouthing our equipment, but these comments in this instance did not rise to that level in my opinion. I very much appreciate and have seen where our customers respond on CloudyNights to share their experiences with our equipment, just as on this forum. The prohibition against vendors replying on threads that are not on the Vendor forum on CN is basically about not "promoting" your equipment. The moderators on CN have interpreted that to also mean "defending" against misinformation. I have been dinged for this a couple of times, so now I tend to not respond at all.

As far as the naming of our mounts, yes, we have already done as you suggest. We will be releasing more mounts in the future.
The EXOS II (EXOS 2) PMC-Eight mount will be phased out in the future... You can expect to see the replacement by the end of the year.
 
Thanks again everyone for your support.
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Comments about the EXOS 2 PMC-Eight on CloudyNights #EXOS2

 

Patrick,
 
The CN rule would have been in their Terms of Service, section #VI.  It's a tiny little link, lower right on the home page.  Not easy to spot, but it's there.
 
I did go over to Mr. Thomas's web site to investigate, and he appears to sell  fairly high end gear, plus a hypertune service for other mounts. So he did not appear to be a reseller of the other mount being discussed. 
 
Once I'd checked both of those things, I realized that while his posts were pretty annoying, they also didn't look like a clearcut TOS violation to me.
 
He was just a guy with a strongly-held opinion based on some incorrect assumptions.  But he had expertise in premium equipment, so that gave him cred.  Possibly because of that, BobZ who does a lot of recommendations on CN, stayed with the thread to the end... (check out the 'likes').  
 
That was interesting, because Mr. T., while a pretty frustrating guy, willingly changed his opinions when evidence appeared, that crossed his 'proof' threshold.
 
By the time we got to the end, a thread that started out badly had turned into a string of endorsements, not just from those of us that posted, but from Mr. T. as well.  IMO, that will probably count for something in future threads.  


- Bob
 
--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Comments about the EXOS 2 PMC-Eight on CloudyNights #EXOS2

Patrick Maher
 
Edited

I'm not sure which rule of the Cloudy Nights forum Jerry is referring to about Vendors not being allowed to comment on products but, there is an obvious downside to doing so.  For example, I now have no desire to ever purchase anything from that clown in that Cloudy Nights thread.  THIS is the biggest problem with vendors running their mouths.  It could/would hurt them more than it would help anyone or themselves. 

That vendor wasn't even close in his assessment of the EXOS2-GT PMC-8 at the beginning of the thread.  Then, he just dug himself into a deeper hole in subsequent comments.  As has been mentioned, he did back off a bit and concede on a few points by the end of the thread though.  That was only thanks to those from this forum who chimed in to correct him and give the rest of the community some additional and accurate info.

Regardless of rules, Jerry was wise to keep from getting involved in that thread.  And, thank you to those who did get involved to correctly inform that particular vendor.

On a related note...  Please, please, please, to Explore Scientific...  if you are going to need to name another new mount in the future, please do not use the name of a previous mount in the naming nomenclature.  Using the EXOS2-GT naming nomenclature in the PMC-8 version's name has seriously confused everyone who knows to avoid the original EXOS2-GT.  If you happen to release a new version of the EXOS2-GT PMC-8, please drop the EXOS2 and replace it with EXOS3 or similar.  If a completely new mount that has a heavier capacity, use the iEXOS naming convention and maybe make it an iEXOS-11 or similar.  Because of the reputation of the original Bresser EXOS2-GT, the EXOS2-GT name should never have been used wholly.  Even adding an "i" prefix would have been better if there was a licensing condition stating the EXOS2 name must be included.  

On another note to Explore Scientific...  It is obvious to everyone who frequents astronomy forums (fora) that there is an abundance of bad feelings about the EXOS2-GT in the community that carries over to neverending advice to avoid this mount like the plague.  More often than not, the people recommending this are confusing the PMC-8 mount with the original Bresser EXOS2.  I would recommend producing a series of promotional videos, each highlighting a different feature of the EXOS2-GT PMC-8.    I seem to remember a nice promo video for the iEXOS-100 that was similar to most camera promotional videos.  I liked that promo.  These videos should be short and feature the mount only, no human other than an appropriate voice-over when necessary.  YouTube and the forums need to be bombarded with these promotional videos to bring new attention and interest to this mount.  Actually, if you create a number of nice short but slick promo videos and promote them effectively in YouTube, I know they will quickly find their way to just about every forum online one way or another.  Perhaps then the common perception of this poor, misunderstood mount would change in a positive way.  

Patrick
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Explore Scientific iEXOS-100 and EXOS-2GT (non-PMC)
Explore Scientific ED 102mm Refractor


locked Re: ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...

Matthew Krauft
 

I completely agree. They do work well together. Thanks to Omar for informing me about inverting the DTR. Baud rate was the other small speed bump. After those two issues though. Wow. It’s made life so much easier. 


locked ASIAIR PRO with PMC8-G11 review / first light...or night that is...

Luke
 

Good morning,

I received an ASIAIR PRO just a few days ago and took time tonight to play with it. It is very well built. 
First I had to figure where I would place the little red box on the mount and how to route the cabling. I did find a perfect spot, I will post pictures within the next couple of days, a picture is worth a lot of words...
You have to configure the PMC8  to worked wired, not wireless, 
Once everything was hooked I turned the unit on and the mount was not connecting to the tablet, bummer..
It took a short while but I found the solution here on this site, you have to reprogram the RS232 FTDI and invert the DTR, I did not know you could even reprogram those, well after I did the reprogramming, really easy to do once you know how, you have to disconnect and reconnect to reset the cable.
Also you have to pick a baud rate, there is a list, I tried in sequence and the 115000 worked for me. After all that was done all worked well and the connection was perfect.
I want to mention also that the software on the ASIAIR PRO updated itself from the tablet upon booting, software and database all in one shot, much easier than ES database, sorry Jerry...
I played with it quite a bit, the interface is really really intuitive, there is a learning curve, but as you go along, there is prompts that appears and guide you in what you are going to do, and how to do it. 
Plate solving worked really well, guiding worked really well, the goto and the selection of targets worked really well,polar align worked really well.
This was my first 4 hours spend with the little red box, so far the PMC8 really like the ASIAIR PRO, a match made in heaven, I am really impressed.
Oh I forgot, all that is done completely wireless, I tried my IPAD , then switched to an Android tablet and lastly used my Android cell phone, it just worked...
As mentioned above I will post pictures taken during day time.
If you have any questions, or anyone else using the ASIAIR have comment or recommendation, please do so.

Luke
--
Mounts: ES PMC-Eight G11 - upgraded with OPWB on both RA and DEC
Scopes: Televue NP127IS with HSM20 and focuser boss II - Questar field model 3.5 - Takahashi FC76 classic MC - Zeiss telementor - Lomo Astele 150mm
Cameras:  ZWO ASI071 PRO
Misc: Televue 0.8 X  Focal Reducer
Eyepieces: Pentax - Masuyama - Televue - Takahashi - Vixen
Software: Starry night PRO 8  - Nebulosity - Topaz studio - Sharp cap


Re: Switching wifi/serial on android

Luke
 


Hi Omar,
if you activate the "autorun"  in AsiAir Pro software, it should continue to do whatever it's doing even when the Android tablet (or Ipad) goes to sleep or powers down.
Luke
--
Mounts: ES PMC-Eight G11 - upgraded with OPWB on both RA and DEC
Scopes: Televue NP127IS with HSM20 and focuser boss II - Questar field model 3.5 - Takahashi FC76 classic MC - Zeiss telementor - Lomo Astele 150mm
Cameras:  ZWO ASI071 PRO
Misc: Televue 0.8 X  Focal Reducer
Eyepieces: Pentax - Masuyama - Televue - Takahashi - Vixen
Software: Starry night PRO 8  - Nebulosity - Topaz studio - Sharp cap


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

Wes Mcdonald
 

Filippo 

1.  The configuration manager has this off thing that sometimes ( mostly) if the pic is not connected to the WiFi it cannot find the serial connection.  So that explains the C M not working.

2.  If the rn131 is reset you will need to configure it again per the settings needed for the pmc8. Not sure where these are.  But you set them using the putty connection.  I think the settings might be in the programmers reference manual.

We’d

--
Wes, Southport NC
PMC-8, ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Comments about the EXOS 2 PMC-Eight on CloudyNights #EXOS2

Timothy Myers
 

Yes, I just saw his latest post, seems his tune has changed somewhat.
--
Tim Myers

Telescopes:     Celestron 4SE, Celestron 8SE, SkyWatcher 100ED Pro
Mounts:           4-5 SE, 6-8SE, EXOS-2GT with PMC-Eight
Cameras:        ASI1600MC, Cooled
Tablets:           Asus Nexus 7, Amazon Fire 7
Laptop:           Lenovo


Re: Comments about the EXOS 2 PMC-Eight on CloudyNights #EXOS2

 

Bugged me, too - but the good news is that the thread seems to have worked out very well in the end.  
 
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Listen Live Today at 4 pm CDT, 5 pm EDT #OpenGOTOLive

Timothy Myers
 

Tuning in yesterday July 1st turned out to be a good thing for me, so happy this is on You Tube now.
--
Tim Myers

Telescopes:     Celestron 4SE, Celestron 8SE, SkyWatcher 100ED Pro
Mounts:           4-5 SE, 6-8SE, EXOS-2GT with PMC-Eight
Cameras:        ASI1600MC, Cooled
Tablets:           Asus Nexus 7, Amazon Fire 7
Laptop:           Lenovo


Re: Comments about the EXOS 2 PMC-Eight on CloudyNights #EXOS2

Timothy Myers
 

Also responded, so if Vendors aren't allowed to make comments about other peoples stuff why does this clown get to?
--
Tim Myers

Telescopes:     Celestron 4SE, Celestron 8SE, SkyWatcher 100ED Pro
Mounts:           4-5 SE, 6-8SE, EXOS-2GT with PMC-Eight
Cameras:        ASI1600MC, Cooled
Tablets:           Asus Nexus 7, Amazon Fire 7
Laptop:           Lenovo


Re: Can EXOS2-GT PMC-EIGHT handle 200mm diameter f/5 newt? #EXOS2

Danny Wingate
 

Good morning,
I have a David H. Levy too, is the EXOS2 mount doing well? If so it may replace my POS AVX mount.

Thanks,
Dano


Re: How Do I Recover From a RN-131 FACTORY RESET? #EXOS2 #G11 #TECHNICAL

zeccax@...
 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:18 AM, Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering wrote:
To be clear, the $$$ is the command mode for the RN-131 WiFi module not the PMC-Eight controller.
That makes sense now, thanks for clarifying.

I bought the mount on amazon sold directly by them.

I'm comfortable with opening the unit and remove the daughter board, but i'm comfortable to try and make an hardware reset procedure too. I have read the procedure on the chipset sheet and that i need an alligator jumper to connect the GPIO9 but I want to be sure to what other pin i need to connect it. I think I need to use a 3V3 pin..but i don't want to make mistakes as I don't know wich other pin is a good one for the procedure. I won't do this until i'm pretty sure on what i'm doing. If I need something else other than an alligator jumper i won't do that either since my knowledge in electronics is limited.

I know you don't want to share the procedure and i can understand why. I don't want to make mistakes so if i said something wrong just tell me, but if what i need is just an alligator jumper and i just need to know what's the other pin that i need to use for the procedure i can make a try.

Thanks

Filippo

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