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Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

brian skinner
 


-- Hi Tyler, I have run through your database download list, with the exception of using an SDcard reader. As this failed I will get a card reader and try again. I have confirmed the App has storage access permission and the ExploreStars data is correctly installed.
Thankyou
Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


Re: Data base is on SD card but will not load onto the application #ExploreStars #Android

Pete@torrington
 

My tablet is a Samsung TAB A (2016) model SM-T585
I also have a number of Windoze boxes, mostly running ancient OS versions.
My Win 10 laptop does not have an SD card slot.
The OS on the machine with an SD slot does not recognise the file structure on the SD card, so that's a non-starter.
I found the following works for loading the database to the SD card on and using the tablet.
It relies heavily on the edit function under Myfiles.
> Download the zip file
> At the root level on the SD card, create 2 folders - ExploreStars and, let's say, ES.
(The system doesn't like moving files or folders to the SD root)
> Move the zip file to ES on the SD card
> Unzip the zip file
> In the unzip folder created by the system, locate the folder ExploreStars and open it
> Move the sqlite file and the images folder (with contents) to the ExploreStars folder at the SD root
ExploreStars should now display its Catalog.
Restart if necessary to make it look for the database again.

Hope that is helpful
Pete


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 03:22 PM, Andreas wrote:
but this workaround never was necessary. Very annoying
Hi Andreas, this is not a workaround, the PMC-Eight ASCOM driver is just a driver like many other drivers. It is not a server. In order to connect multiple ASCOM clients to a driver, you have to use some kind of ASCOM hub or server. POTH has been proven reliable over the past several years. 
 
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Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

brian skinner
 

Thanks Jeff, that is my understanding as well but there maybe another reason why an SDcard reader is preferable. Tyler will hopefully clarify.
Brian
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Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


What is the correct order for washers and locking washer on the knob of the iEXOS 100 PMC Eight Tripod #iEXOS-100

David
 

Hi all,

The locking washer has somehow split and the knob dropped out of the bottom of the Tripod when I was disengaging the mount from the Tripod.

Is there a specific order for the various washers that accompanied the knob to the floor to be put back together? I want to make sure it all goes back together correctly.

Appreciate your feedback.

iEXos 100 PMC Eight Mount and Tripod
BR
David


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

Jeff Hogan
 

I’m not Tyler; but, that will work as well.  If you can see the SD card when you connect your tablet that IS an SD card reader.

 

 

 

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Hi Tyler(and Wes) many thanks for this, very useful indeed. Firstly my Android Tablet is a Samsung Tab A, model no. SM-T510, running Android 10, about 2 years old.
From your step by step guide I am sure I have followed most of the steps both now and previously when I have had no trouble in getting earlier versions of the App to open the database. Having said that, one thing that may be more critical now than in the past is the use of an SD Card reader, previously I have transferred the unzipped ExploreStars folder (containing the Image sub folder and sqlite file) from my PC to my Tablet SDcard using the standard USB cable. As I do not have an SDcard reader, do you think this is an essential necessity?
Hope you can give advise on the permissions and Sdcard questions please?
Again many thanks and kind regards, Brian
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Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

brian skinner
 

Hi Tyler(and Wes) many thanks for this, very useful indeed. Firstly my Android Tablet is a Samsung Tab A, model no. SM-T510, running Android 10, about 2 years old.
From your step by step guide I am sure I have followed most of the steps both now and previously when I have had no trouble in getting earlier versions of the App to open the database. Having said that, one thing that may be more critical now than in the past is the use of an SD Card reader, previously I have transferred the unzipped ExploreStars folder (containing the Image sub folder and sqlite file) from my PC to my Tablet SDcard using the standard USB cable. As I do not have an SDcard reader, do you think this is an essential necessity?
Hope you can give advise on the permissions and Sdcard questions please?
Again many thanks and kind regards, Brian
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Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

Tyler Bowman - Explore Scientific Customer Service
 

Hey Brian, let's make sure we are doing this correctly ill provide a document. 

Follow the steps exactly:

1) From this page -- https://explorescientificusa.com/pages/android-os-download -- download the Android database onto a Windows machine.

2) Go to where it downloaded, probably the download folder, where you'll find ExploreStars in a zipped file.

3) Click on it ONCE.

4) At the top should see, in pink, Compressed Folder Tools. Click on that -- NOT on Extract.

5) A bit below that, on the right, you'll now see Extract All. Double click it.

6) I suggest you click the browse button so can make the machine download it onto your desktop. Once the location is chosen, click selection.

7) Then click Extract.

The extraction process will start.

 

Now that it is downloaded:

1) Find the ExploreStars folder on your desktop.

2) Double click it to open it. Inside should be 2 files – the Images folder and the file ExploreStars.sqlite.

 

If you have not already done so, insert your micro-SD card into the computer slot.

1) Open the micro-SD card. Delete ALL ExloreStars folders that may reside there.

2) Close the micro-SD card.

3) Click and hold on the ExploreStars folder AND DRAG it onto the micro-SD card.

4) Open the micro-SD card to verify the folder is on the FIRST LEVEL of the card.

5) If it is not, Get on the FIRST LEVEL.

6) Eject the card.

 

On the tablet:

1) If it is running, close the ExploreStars app.

2) Insert the micro-SD card.

3) Turn off the tablet.

4) Turn on the tablet.

5) Launch ExploreStars.

 

That process should get you up and running.

 

Now, some devices require you to give permission to let the app access the database. That is different on different operating systems. If that's the case, I need to know exactly what operating system you are running. You can probably Google it and find it yourself.

 

The most common mistaken I've seen in this process happens in Step No. 4 in the first paragraph: 4) At the top should see, in pink, Compressed Folder Tools. Click on that -- NOT on Extract. The mistake is clicking on Extract under the pink box. Click on the pink box to access the correct Extract All button.

 

I hope my directions make sense. I typed them as I went through the process on my computer.

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Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Andreas
 

I had many mounts but this workaround never was necessary. Very annoying, but it works now.
Thanks for your explaniation.
Regards
Andreas


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

brian skinner
 


-- Hi Wes, as we say over here the plot thickens. First the app/database problem. I understand the need to load the database onto the SD card. I am afraid after several reload attempts from Playstore, the latest app is still not opening the database- I'm getting the (standard?) sqlite flash message indicating the problem. Database path is storage/sdcard/explorestars/image.... two things have sprung to mind, first the latest app settings page indicates  database path as storage/3752-3562/explorestars/.... ie not sdcard. I don't whether that is relevant? Also I haven't used an sdcard USB connector, I don't have one and have had no problems in the past, I drag the unzipped database from my windows 10 pc over to my tablet via the standard tablet USB Cable. Could this be an issue this time round? The database appears complete at around 80megs and the image directories all open correctly...
Secondly, I'm now experiencing mechanical issues with my mount! First off, if I submit an RA/DEC coordinate from the App coordinate page the mount slews correctly, however when I input a second set of coordinates the mount doesn't (re)slew and in fact doesn't park either, it just hangs......
Any advise is, as always, very welcome. Kind regards, Brian




Brian Skinner
iEXOS100
Canon 1300d dslr
Various lenses
ES Polar scope
Sequator image stacker
PIXR image editor


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Leigh Caldwell
 

Robert's answer earlier in the thread is the one to read. Instead of connecting all your programs direct to the mount, you just connect the Hub to the mount. Then all your other programs connect to the Hub.

The Hub in ASCOM has been renamed from POTH (Plain-Old-Telescope-Hub) to "ASCOM Device Hub", so if you find forum posts or blog articles from before 2020, they will probably refer to POTH. Just replace with 'Device Hub' and you will be fine.

Once you have run the ASCOM Device Hub and connected it to the mount, you can then start your other programs. in PHD2 and NINA, when you select which mount you want to connect to, you choose 'Device Hub Telescope' (or something similar - it might be slightly different for each program but hopefully it will be clear which one it is).

The Device Hub can have as many programs connected as you want, and it will pass on the messages to the mount - so that the mount doesn't get confused getting multiple signals from different programs.


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Sebastian
 
Edited

Use Ascom „Hub“ for more than 1 device. You have to configure the pmc8 telescope in the hub then you can choose the hub in Nina telescopes and Phd2.


Re: PMC-8 & ASCOM / 1 program at a time #EXOS2 #iEXOS-100

Andreas
 

Is this true? I have the same problem that i am not able to connect to multiple programs via Ascom. But i hoped that the solution is a cable with a FTDI Chip. I need a connection to NINA for PlateSolving and to PHD2 for Guiding.

Regards
Andreas


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

Doug Doonan
 

Hi TeeJay Bee
 I sent a reply to your earlier mail about your problem.
I would be happy to help you in private email, if you'd like.
We could talk if your interested.
Doug Doonan
dougdwd@...



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From: TeeJayBee <vdsr.tb@...>
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Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #ASCOM #EXOS2

Yes Sebastian, however I'm getting started with Ascom as at some point I know I'm going to need to start guiding rather than just tracking, up til now I have just been entering co-ordinates in ES but I am limited o an absolute maximum of 2 minutes exposures if I get a good enough polar alignment, I was hoping to be able to do more and get better signal to noise ratio
I'm beginning to think that this system maybe be a bit too geeky/techy for me and that I might need something a little more user friendly, it would be a shame to jump ship as I'm a glutton for things that are different but the setting up of this is starting to go down an endless rabbit hole LOL
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EXOS 2 PMC-Eight
Fujifilm X-T2
Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary
Vixen VMC-110L

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HomeBru  6 inch Reflector  f 6.6
HomeBru  85 mm Refractor  f 5.6
PMC-8, EXOS 2
Long retired EE.


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

TeeJayBee
 

Yes Sebastian, however I'm getting started with Ascom as at some point I know I'm going to need to start guiding rather than just tracking, up til now I have just been entering co-ordinates in ES but I am limited o an absolute maximum of 2 minutes exposures if I get a good enough polar alignment, I was hoping to be able to do more and get better signal to noise ratio

I'm beginning to think that this system maybe be a bit too geeky/techy for me and that I might need something a little more user friendly, it would be a shame to jump ship as I'm a glutton for things that are different but the setting up of this is starting to go down an endless rabbit hole LOL
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EXOS 2 PMC-Eight
Fujifilm X-T2
Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary
Vixen VMC-110L


Re: Installed ascom drivers, explorestars dont work anymore #ASCOM #ExploreStars

Wes Mcdonald
 

Brian:

I loaded the app on a new android (old TAb A ) and put my old database micro sd into it and the thing runs great.

You still have to load the database onto the micro sd card...or alias your main memory somehow which I saw once on the forum...
Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: New BETA Test Subgroup Available #ASCOM #ExploreScientific #FIRMWARE

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

I wanted to update everyone about the status of the PMC-Eight Universal Firmware BETA test program.

Today I am packaging up the files to share on the Beta Test subgroup for those who have subscribed. I have not yet approved all those who have joined the forum but will do that shortly.

If you are still interested in joining in on the fun of testing the new PMC-Eight Universal Firmware please join the subgroup.

Thanks!
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Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

 

TeeJayBee,
 
The PMC8 keeps track of motor counts on its axes and knows where it is pointed, in those terms.  It doesn't know about stars.  It may not be obvious at first, but that really is a feature, not a bug.  
 
The astronomical information is back in your control program (CdC, Stellarium, whatever).  The driver translates between them.  The PMC8's command language is described in the PMC8 Programmers Reference document.  This is available either here in the FILES section, or embedded in your ASCOM driver install, if you checked the 'sources' box when you installed. 
 
- Bob
 
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

Sebastian
 

No. The 1-3 star alignment will be lost,  after you connect via Ascom .  But  you can  enter any RA/DEC coordinates manually in Explore Stars and slew there. 

 


Re: What software do I need to make a PMC-Eight work with stellarium #ASCOM #EXOS2

TeeJayBee
 

Would it not work if I used Explore Stars to carry out a 3 star alignment after a polar alignment then close explore stars and connect via Stellarium?
I ask as I dont have a camera that connects to my laptop, I just want to use my Mirrorless camera for imaging up to max 2 minutes with various lenses but would like reasonably accurate go to's

I'm kind of hoping that the star map is stored in the PMC-Eight and Stellarium sends the co-ordinates to go to via Ascom-POTH? but that it's the PMC-Eight which decides where those co-ordinates are ?

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