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Re: EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 09:08 AM, Wes Mcdonald wrote:
After reset of the wifi board, you do have to go through the reconfiguration manually. 
HI Peter,

I just sent you an email responding to your issue. I would suggest that instead of you trying to restore the configuration of the RN-131 module and risk additional damage, you should send you box back to us. Please contact customer support at   1 (866) 252-3811 and talk with Tyler or email us at service@... and request an RMA to return your PMC-EIght.
 
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Re: EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Peter Danek
 

Hi Wes,

I have some experience, I was a IT technician for a "fruit" company few years ago so I think I can do it. 

I understand the whole process of setting the parameters, I was doing that when it happens. I did factory reset and then setting parameters when I lost connection and after reboot there was no SSID to find anymore. 

What I don't understand is:

1. Pull the test point TP_IO9 ? Like pull it UP? Or connect it by alligator to TP_GND?
2. Where is the reset test point?

I was reading your posts but you never said exactly how to do it, if you don't want to post it here just send me an email.

some informations here that I have been reading:
https://microchipsupport.force.com/s/article/How-can-factory-defaults-be-restored-to-the-RN171-RN131-module

Jerry was talking about it here:
https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/message/2087?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,alligator,20,2,0,28835885

Almost same issue like mine:
https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/topic/75158547#

I'm also confused of the behavior of the serial port. 


Re: EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Wes Mcdonald
 

Peter:

Assuming the wifi module is not damaged, you are going to be ok. 

After reset of the wifi board, you do have to go through the reconfiguration manually.  I have been all over it many times, but have forgotten the detail soI will look into it and get back to you.

The overview is this:

1.  You will reboot the thing with a test point pulled up (or grounded), and with three or so taps on the reset test point, this brings the thing up in a mode where you can connect to it via wifi and run its internal web server
2.  Then you use the web server to set the parameters, best if done via the web server terminal.  

As for not being able to communicate at all right  now, this is because the unit is likely trapped in wifi mode.

One troubling aspect of all your troubles is that the serial worked but stopped working.  That is not supposed to happen.  

Let me remember how this is done exactly and get back to you.  Or maybe someone at Explore Scientific can fill you in.  Its not hard, and you have opened the unit.  Do you have electronics experience?

Wes.




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Re: EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Peter Danek
 

Regarding the Poth vs Device hub I was not able to make serial connection longer than few seconds.... just for eeprom upload or COM check. After that there is no serial connection. And without the WIFI now I can't connect to the PMC at all.

Here are some screenshots:


Re: EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Peter Danek
 

Hi Tyler,
 
there was a development since my first post. I was able to establish a stable connection with the PUTTY telnet so I decided to do a factory reset as described in the manual(I'm frustrated after 3 days of this). As I was setting default commands after the reset, I lost connection when setting:
 
set wlan auth 4 
set wlan hide 1 
set wlan join 7 
set wlan chan 8 
 
So I rebooted the unit and after that, there was no SSID available anymore to connect to. After many attempts, I decided to open the PMC unit and see if there is something strange. 
 
To my surprise, I found out that the WIFI daughter board was not connected properly all the way in(see picture) which was maybe the cause of the connection problems and strange behavior of the PMC unit.
 
So I pushed it all the way in to secure the connection but my problem is now that I still don't see the SSID and I can't connect via PUTTY.
 
As I understand I need to perform a hardware factory reset to get the soft AP again.


PS: here is how was the mount behaving and the LEDS after stopped responding before(see attachments).


Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

Leigh Caldwell
 

You need to make sure the Tracking box is ticked in Device Hub, otherwise it won't slew. When you click Unpark, it doesn't automatically start tracking so you will need to tick this manually after unparking.


Re: EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Tyler Bowman - Explore Scientific Customer Service
 
Edited

What are the lights going on the side of the PMC-Eight especially on the wifi portion of the testing 

on the wifi selection I'm curious to know how many other wifi devices your running on the same channel that could be interfering with the signal?

the serial are you using Poth to control the mount or the Device hub?
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EXOS2 working few seconds PMC-8 not responding #EXOS2 #pmc-eight

Peter Danek
 

I'm a happy new owner of the EXOS2 PMC-8 mount but I was not able to use it since I received it. I was trying to get it to work reading all the topics here but I have not found the solution for my problem.
 
The issue is simple: 
Tried on PC WIN 10, Laptop WIN 10, Nextbook WIN 8.1, and android tablet. I have also Macbook Pro and Mac Pro but I don't see the point of trying it there.
1. I can connect to the PMC wifi, and control the mount by ExploreStars for few seconds, then it is not responding. 
2. Same issue with the SERIAL connection. I'm able to connect to a serial(FTDI) for a few seconds after the start. Same with ASCOM. But after the initial connection ASCOM/PMC CM tool the connection is lost.
 
 
After that, the PMC CM is reporting NONE connection to the mount. Sending any command over SERIAL or TCP is returning only *HELLO*
 
The strange thing is that I can connect to the mount for a brief few seconds ONLY after I unplug the power for a few minutes(20-30). After the connection is lost and the mount is not responding I can't just restart the PMC and try it again, I have to wait(to cool it down?).
 
I was also able to flash the EEPROM but it didn't help.
 
I'm using the supplied power supply and I noticed that the leds are sometimes dimming slightly. like a power issue. I have tried another power supply with the same specs but the issue is the same.
 
Can anyone suggest what should I try next?
 
Thank you 


Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

jorge@...
 

Thanks Leigh, I have tried connecting to the ASCOM DeviceHub, and I can see stellarium client in DEviceHub window, but when I try to slew to one star the scope doesn't move. 

The connection to the DeviceHUB is correct from Stellarium but there has to be anything I'm missing or something not working in stellarium.

I have tried the same way with CDC and I can slew the scope, but it will be perfect if Stellarium works...


#alignment #alignment

alandebrut
 

Hello,

Simple question I hope, I have tried using CDC which works fine but wanted to check about using CDC for alignment.

If I have good polar alignment and I then use CDC to slew to a target, I then get the object central in my eyepiece,
do I move the reticle on the star chart over the target object and then press sync or track telescope?

If not, could someone tell me what the process is please?

Many thanks
Alan
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Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

Leigh Caldwell
 

Hi Jorge

One thing to be aware of (this tripped me up when I started): if you are running the ASCOM device hub (or POTH), you shouldn't connect Stellarium directly to the telescope. If you do that you would have two programs both trying to control the telescope and they will conflict.

Instead, you run the ASCOM device hub first, and then all your other programs connect to the hub. The hub "pretends" to be a telescope, and it passes on all the instructions from the other programs. This way, you can have SharpCap, Stellarium, and any other programs all sharing a connection to the same telescope.

After you run the Device Hub, when you go in to set up a new telescope in Stellarium you'll see Device Hub Telescope (or something similar) appear as a telescope option - connect to that instead of the iExos100.

I believe POTH works in the same way, although Device Hub had already replaced it by the time I started.

Forgive me if this is obvious and you're already doing it. But your parking/unparking problem sounds exactly the same as what I had before I realised this - and was my prompt to discover I was doing it wrong!

     Leigh.


Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

Doug Doonan
 

Hi you guys,

I have my stuff connected through the new ASCOM ie no more POTH.
I started my mount this AM  to check it out, and it performed flawlessly using CDC.
It would go any where, and at the end I could park it and it came right back where it started, at park.
FYI

Doug Doonan



-----Original Message-----
From: Wes Mcdonald <wesmcd6@...>
To: MAIN@espmc-eight.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Feb 16, 2021 10:25 am
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked

I run Stellarium all the time with POTH.  So this morning I decided to try it out as per this thread.  WEll it would connect and show me the mount position, but it would not move the mount.  PArked or unparked etc.

So I booted NINA.  Imported Stellarium coordinates and went to the object.  Great.  After that Stellarium was fine!


Can't say what the heck is going on.  We should probably move this thread over to Applications Sub group and continue.
Wes.


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Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

I run Stellarium all the time with POTH.  So this morning I decided to try it out as per this thread.  WEll it would connect and show me the mount position, but it would not move the mount.  PArked or unparked etc.

So I booted NINA.  Imported Stellarium coordinates and went to the object.  Great.  After that Stellarium was fine!


Can't say what the heck is going on.  We should probably move this thread over to Applications Sub group and continue.
Wes.


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EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: #iEXOS-100 in Stellarium always complaining about the mount being parked #iEXOS-100

jorge@...
 

Hi Deonb,

did you get the unparking for Stellarium? I have tried with ASCOM 6.4 and the unparking doesn't work either. it's the same behaviour as 6.5.

If I unpark it with POTH and then execute Stellarium it cannot connect to the scope, it hangs.

Regards,


Re: Pushing the limits! #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

Wow. I wonder how much that load is?
Wes


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ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Pushing the limits! #iEXOS-100

GOLundby
 

Hi!

IExos-100 with TS65 420mm f6.5 with Sony a7 unmodified controlled by StellarMate, guided. Heavy overload of mount. My second motif:


Re: Wireless connection to Stellarium to the PMC8 #EXOS2 #ASCOM

Wes Mcdonald
 

Terry

Download the configuration manager from the Es website.  Install that and give it a go.

Wes

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EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: GOTO not slewing to the right place when using APT #iEXOS-100 #ASCOM #astrophotography

@MartinRobomaze
 

Hi,
Thanks for your reply! The site location was indeed set to ES headquarters. I've changed it to my location and I'll test it when the skies are clear.
Martin.

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Re: Wireless connection to Stellarium to the PMC8 #EXOS2 #ASCOM

TeeJayBee
 

Got to be a dumb question but how do I bring up that Wifi configuration box as above?

I have installed the ES_PMC8 setup.exe on my Windows 10 laptop but cannot find how to configure to WiFi tcp/ip as above?

Thanks
Terry


Re: iExos 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Luiz Sanches
 

Hello
Robert, I make a test in all day and worked! But, at same time, I was make others tests thinking what is the solution... and... sometimes the mount worked for days and after, no.... In this month, in Brazil, is summer and are many clouds here.... I want to make the test for to many nights to see if this is the solution. 
Maybe next month I can tell you. Thank you!

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