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Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 
Edited

Carried everything inside again, gave it one more try, and now it's connecting again :(. 
I'm not carrying it outside again to only find out it doesn't work outside.

I'm using a Microsoft Surface laptop.. expensive stuff. If that doesn't work I definitely need another mount.
I have an old iPad 3 lying around somewhere which I don't use anymore, because most apps need a newer iOS then the iPad3 is capable of.  is the ExploreStars App compatible with iOS 9.3.5 ?
I am not planning on buying another iPad. I'd rather buy a better mount.

It may be a good mount, but when it is not working, it's just a heap of scrap metal.

EDIT: ExploreStars is not compatible with this iPad..


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James Everson
 

Paul,

I can understand your frustration. My first few outings with the mount was challenging. It has a rather steep learning curve compared to my Celestron AVX mount. However, once you figure it out, it is a great mount. It sounds like you are using either a laptop or a Windows tablet to connect to the PMC8 device. I would suggest, if you happen to have one, is using an iPad when getting started. It connects to the PMC8 wifi easily and the databases are updated automatically. I am only just starting to get into auto-guiding which involves moving from my iPad to my laptop and I am running into some challenges again. As with all new things, we have to learn and adapt. ES does seem to target more intermediate to advanced users. Give it some time and I think you'll find that even with it's quirks, it's a good mount.

Good luck and clear skies

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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

I carried all my stuff outside, hooked everything up, and now ExploreStars is stuck at Please Wait.. damn what a really bad program it is..
Last week I tried everything out inside the house, and it was all hunky dory, and now I will have to abondon the first clear skies in weeks, because the system won't work

I guess I need another brand of mount and abandon ES.  It's one disappointment after the other.. 


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James Everson
 

Yeah, was a typo. Which interface are you using (iPad, Android, PC)? Are you sure your database is up to date? While there are some objects I couldn't find, I have found about 90-95% that I have searched for. Some objects have NGC, HIP, IC, SAO, and other identifiers. Sometimes you just have to find the one ES uses.


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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

Some objects will also come up if you just search "heart" (without the "")
When I search for "heart" I get 9 objects, none of them "The heart nebula" so that is kinda useless.


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

I guess, you meant HIP #, but the ones I tried are not in the database.
This application is not as handy as I thought :( 
It's frustration after frustration. When an object # is not found in the database, you have to renavigate to the search form.. this is poorly designed :(


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James Everson
 

The Heart Nebula resides within an open cluster. If you like, you can find a bright star in or near the nebula and use it's HIT # as a slew point.


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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

Hi,

My mistake, the longitude and latitude info was incorrect for my location :( Hence it didn't show the Slew To button.

However, IC 1805 (the heart nebula according to Stellarium) returns the Cassiopeia Objects Group. Not the Heart nebula. This object type is "Open cluster"  not "Nebula"
NGC 1795 returns the Dorado objects group.. Not the nebula..

I'm confused ..

Thanks,
Paul


Re: Dec axis motor system faulty or newbie error?? #EXOS2

Tony
 

I would certainly think you'd be fine opening the inspection door.  Its a simple clip in piece of plastic, no tools necessary.  You'll at least get a quick look inside.   Once you have a visual confirmation on what is slipping, hopefully support can advise you on the proper steps.  My guess is that it will mirror what Robert suggested, but you may want to wait to hear it straight from them.

Good luck,
-Tony



On 10/16/2020 12:35 PM, Paul Mogg wrote:
Thank you very much for those notes Robert, and for your reply Tony. I will read your notes and see if I can fix it, whatever it is. My only concern is that if I attempt a repair or open the motor housing that I'll nulify my warranty on the mount. It's only 10 days or so old. 

Thanks again,

Paul
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Location: southern Spain

Equipment:
Explore Scientific EOS-2 PMC-Eight mount
Skywatcher 200DPS Newtonian telescope
Telrad.
28mm 2" and 12mm 1.25" lenses.
2 and 5 x Barlows.
Macbook air 
Huawei Android T5 Tablet
Nikon D3200 DSLR
Software: ExploreStars Android & WIndows, Stellarium OSX & Android, AstroDSLR


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

 

Use the search function in ExploreStars. 


On 16 Oct 2020, at 17:56, James Everson <jeverson.biz@...> wrote:

I know it's in there I as I got this a few weeks back...

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--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT

--
Michael Whitaker
Wakefield, UK. 
MOUNTS. Exos-2 PMC Eight..
SCOPE: RVO Horizon 72ed. 
CAMERA: Not Applicable. 
SOFTWARE: Just iPad at moment. 


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James Everson
 

I know it's in there I as I got this a few weeks back...


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James Everson
 

You can search by the NGC #.

In the case of the Heart Nebula, it would be NGC 1795 or you can try IC 1805. Most objects in the sky have different identifiers. Some objects will also come up if you just search "heart" (without the "").

Clear skies.


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

Hi,

Can someone explain to me how to find and use non-messier objects in the ExploreStars application ?
I can't find a way to, for instance, find the Heart nebula and slew to it..

I thought this app contained 10.000 objects to GoTo ?
But in stead I only can find some Messier objects.. what gives ?

Thanks,
Paul


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

James Everson
 


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Timothy Myers
 

Mars, fair, not great,

I was lazy and left my 8" SCT in the garage, it would have done better with more Focal Length



--
Tim Myers

Telescopes:           Celestron 4SE, Celestron 8SE, SkyWatcher 100ED Pro
Mounts:                 4-5 SE, 6-8SE, EXOS-2GT with PMC-Eight
Cameras:               ASI1600MC Imaging Camera, Cooled, ASI120 Guide Camera
Focuser:               ZWO EAF
Scope Mini PC:    Topton Pentium
Laptop:                 Lenovo
Software:             CDC, SharpCap Pro, NINA, PHD2


Re: Dec axis motor system faulty or newbie error?? #EXOS2

Paul Mogg
 

Thank you very much for those notes Robert, and for your reply Tony. I will read your notes and see if I can fix it, whatever it is. My only concern is that if I attempt a repair or open the motor housing that I'll nulify my warranty on the mount. It's only 10 days or so old. 

Thanks again,

Paul
--
Location: southern Spain

Equipment:
Explore Scientific EOS-2 PMC-Eight mount
Skywatcher 200DPS Newtonian telescope
Telrad.
28mm 2" and 12mm 1.25" lenses.
2 and 5 x Barlows.
Macbook air 
Huawei Android T5 Tablet
Nikon D3200 DSLR
Software: ExploreStars Android & WIndows, Stellarium OSX & Android, AstroDSLR


Re: PHD2 stopped talking to my mount #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #pmc-eight #ASCOM

James Everson
 

OK. I ordered one that specifically states it is the FTDI version. Should be here tomorrow. That still doesn't explain why it works with ASCOM but not PHD2. Especially if PHD2 is using ASCOM as a proxy to talk to the mount. Just a thought.

Thanks


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: PHD2 stopped talking to my mount #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #pmc-eight #ASCOM

 

James,

Yup.  That cable uses a Prolific chipset, not FTDI.   

Unless something changed (Wes?  Jerry?), Prolific's were specifically not recommended for this application, in more than one post.  

- Bob


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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: PHD2 stopped talking to my mount #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #pmc-eight #ASCOM

Andreas Volz
 
Edited

That cable seems to have the Prolific PL2303 chip.You should get a cable with FTDI chip. My first cable also had the Prolific chip and did not work.
 
Regards, 
Andreas

James Everson <jeverson.biz@...> schrieb am Fr., 16. Okt. 2020, 18:04:

Robert,

This is what I have.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083QWL13V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would assume that whatever this cable has is adequate as I can control the mount with the ASCOM tools. The issue appears to be more with how PHD2 is interacting with ASCOM. I don't think this is a hardware/cable issue. I can get one that specifically states that it has this FTDI chip, but I not convinced it would make a difference.

Thanks


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT

 

 


Re: PHD2 stopped talking to my mount #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #pmc-eight #ASCOM

James Everson
 

Robert,

This is what I have.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083QWL13V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would assume that whatever this cable has is adequate as I can control the mount with the ASCOM tools. The issue appears to be more with how PHD2 is interacting with ASCOM. I don't think this is a hardware/cable issue. I can get one that specifically states that it has this FTDI chip, but I not convinced it would make a difference.

Thanks


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT