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Re: iexos-100 beginner comments (Mac user) #iEXOS-100 #iPadOS #FIRMWARE

Paul Mogg
 

Hi Everyone,

First just a big thank you to all he experts here for helping beginners such as myself get started. It would be so much harder without you!

 

Ok, so since I last posted on this thread I have got more into Kstars / EKOS on the Mac and think it’s bees knees, everything you could want rolled into one package it seems, and the Plate Solving is so cool!. I’m now getting started with Guiding, bought a guide camera and scope and a better DSLR that can do more than 30sec shots. So a couple of questions on guiding:

 

1. I’ve been able to get rough guiding going using PHD2 and the ST-4 cable, but the guiding graph seems all over the place, and I’ve since read that Pulse guiding over serial cable is the better way to go. 

 

So, can you do Pulse guiding via the WIFI connection to the PMC-Eight box? Or does it have to be via the special Serial cable ( USB—>DB9 )?  

 

 

2. In this thread Mirko kindly posted instructions for switching the IEXOS 100 to Serial mode via OSX Terminal instructions, and then using CoolTerm to switch back when needed, if I understand correctly.

 

So do these instructions also apply to the EXOS-2 PMC-Eight mount? 

 

I bought a USB—>DB9 FTDI cable and managed to successfully Flash it using FT_Prog (under Parallels / WIndows 10) as per the instructions on this forum, but don’t want to risk trying it out till I know for sure.

 

I have an Exos-2 PMC-Eight mount, NOT an IEXOS-100.

 

 

Thank you!

Paul

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Location: southern Spain

Equipment:
Explore Scientific EOS-2 PMC-Eight mount
Skywatcher 200DPS Newtonian telescope
Nikon D5200 DSLR
Orion 50mm guide scope
Oriion Starshoot guide camera
ZWO EAF 
Telrad.
28mm 2" and 12mm 1.25" lenses.
2 and 5 x Barlows.
Macbook Air 
Huawei Android T5 Tablet
Software: Kstars / EKOS, ExploreStars Android & WIndows, Stellarium, AstroDSLR.


Re: Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Luiz Sanches
 

Good Configuration! Some parts can be used for many other programas for work with POTH.


Re: Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Larry White
 

I believe I have found a way to configure the ASCOM Device Hub 65 to use an Xbox Game Controller.  Frist update to Service Pack 1 (SP1).  Ensure you include the POTH Hub option.  See Peter Simpson’s post for details.

Follow these steps to connect you mount to your desktop/laptop:

Step

Action

Result

1

Open ASCOM DeviceHub65 Sp1

The ASCOM Device Hub window opens

2

Click Tools=> Setup

The Device Hub Application and Driver Setup window opens

3

Click Choose button

The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup displays

4

Select POTH Hub option from the dropdown menu

 

5

Click Properties button

The POTH Setup popup displays

6

Click Choose Scope button

The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup displays

7

From the dropdown options Select your scope (e.g. ES_PMC8 Telescope)

Your Scope/Mount displays in the dropdown field

8

Click the OK button

The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup closes

9

On the POTH Setup popup Click the Setup button

Your Mount/Telescope Driver popup displays.  Ensure settings (Mount, Comm port, Comm Speed, etc.) are correct.

10

Click the OK button

Your Mount/Telescope Driver popup closes

11

On the POTH Setup popup Click the Connect button

The Connect button changes to Disconnect button

12

Click the OK button

The POTH Setup popup closes.  The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup become the active popup

13

Click the OK button

The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup closes The Device Hub Application and Driver Setup becomes the active popup

14

Click the OK button

The Device Hub Application and Driver Setup popup closes.  The ASCOM Device Hub window becomes active

15

Click the Connect Telescope button

Your mount is now connected to your computer/laptop

 

The following steps will connect your game controller to your mount:

Step

Action

Result

16

Open ASCOMPAD

The ASCOMPAD window opens

17

Click the Devices menu option

The Devices dropdown menu displays

18

Click the Mount option

The Mount popup menu displays

19

Click the Connect option

The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup displays

20

From the dropdown options Select POTH Hub

POTH Hub displays in the dropdown field

21

Click the OK button

The ASCOM Telescope Chooser popup closes.  The ASCOMPAD window becomes the active window

 

At this point your game controller should be functional.

--
Larry White
O'Fallon, IL 

Scope:  ES AR102, Celestron C8
Mount:  EXOS2-GT w/ PMC-Eight
Cameras:  ZWO ASI 120MC, Canon EOS T6
 


Re: Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

Hi Larry,

The problem is probably related to the fact that ASCOMPAD is a very old program that is only useable with the POTH because of changes made to create the Device Hub. I would post a question about that on the EQMOD project Groups.io page or maybe on the ASCOM Developer Groups.io page. You can still install POTH with ASCOM 6.5 but you have to manually select the install when doing it from the list of items available. Finally, I received a message today that ASCOM 6.5 Service Pack 1 is available for download and further corrects issues with various features including bug fixes for the Device Hub. There is a possibility that a fix was made that will enable ASCOMPAD to work with Device Hub now.
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Larry White
 

Jerry,

It is my understanding that the new ASCOM DeviceHub65 does away for the need to use POTH.  In fact I don’t see it anymore.  While installing ASCOM DH  I installed the updated driver from ES website.

After launching ASCOM DH I select Tools => Setup =>Choose =>ES_PMC* Telescope.  Just out of habit I select Properties and make sure “Enable Serial Port is selected (I’m using a serial to USB connection between the PMC8 and my laptop.)  I make sure the EXOS II mount is selected and I have a Comm Port.

Having done all that its back to the Chooser window and click on OK.  I click OK on the DH App and Driver Setup window.  I click the Connect Telescope button on the ASCOM DH window.  At this point everything is hunky-dory.

Now I launch ASCOMPAD and click on Devices =>GamePad just to make sure the controller is being recognized.  Now I select Devices => Mount and select Connect.  From the telescope chooser I select "Device Hub Telescope" and then OK.  At this point I can change the rate using the game controller and that is it.  The only buttons that work on the ASCOMPAD window are Park and UnPark.  If I open the DH Activity Log window I get:  From ASCOMPAD window directional keys:

 

17:34:29.513: Telescope - Commands:     MoveAxis Secondary at 0 deg/sec:  (done)

17:34:32.782: Telescope - Commands:     AbortSlew:  (done)

17:34:35.367: Telescope - Commands:     MoveAxis Primary at 0 deg/sec:  (done)

From the Game Controller D-pad directionals:

17:34:44.911: Telescope - Commands:     MoveAxis Secondary at 0 deg/sec:  (done)

17:34:48.825: Telescope - Commands:     AbortSlew:  (done)

17:34:52.510: Telescope - Commands:     MoveAxis Primary at 0 deg/sec:  (done)

Any ideas as to what I might or might not be doing wrong?

--
Larry White
O'Fallon, IL 

Scope:  ES AR102, Celestron C8
Mount:  EXOS2-GT w/ PMC-Eight
Cameras:  ZWO ASI 120MC, Canon EOS T6
 


Re: Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

This is an old message for a previous version of the ASCOM driver. The current ASCOM driver available on the Explore Scientific website has this fix already in it. 
This message has some good info in it as Luiz said as far as how I tested it and the button settings.
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Water resistance?

Turn Backyard Red
 

After letting them dry out a while, everything is looking good except the OTA, it has water sitting in it. 
--
Mount: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Telescope: Celestron C6-A XLT
Main Camera: Canon SL2(200D) unmodified


Re: Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Luiz Sanches
 

Larry, look here: https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/topic/24822394?p=,,,20,0,0,0::relevance,,ASCOMPAD,20,2,0,24822394,ct=1&ct=1
I couldn't use the ASCOMPAD with device Hub, but only with POTH. If you could find out other way for use it with the device, tell us.


Using A Game Controller with ASCOM DeviceHub65

Larry White
 

After watching several Bob Denny videos I made the upgrade to ASCOM Device Hub 65.  In doing so I’ve lost the ability to use my Xbox game controller.  I like being able to make minor adjustments with the game controller, especially after doing a quick and dirty polar alignment for star gazing with the grandkids.

After loading ASCOM DeviceHub65, ASCOMPAD recognizes the Device Hub Telescope and connects.  But when I press an ASCOMPAD directional button or the game controller D pad or move the joystick on the game controller nothing happens. The only exception is the button I have assigned as the Park button.  The mount will park.  A review of the Activity log shows all the afore mentioned buttons are being recognized via the following:  “MoveAxis Primary/Secondary 0 deg/sec.”  Any ideas as to what is going on?
--
Larry White
O'Fallon, IL 

Scope:  ES AR102, Celestron C8
Mount:  EXOS2-GT w/ PMC-Eight
Cameras:  ZWO ASI 120MC, Canon EOS T6
 


Re: Water resistance?

Wes Mcdonald
 

Turn Red

If your PMC8 box got wet inside, I would recommend you do the following:

Best Efforts:

1.  Open your pmc8 box.
2.  Go and get yourself some pure isopropyl alcohol from a pharmacy, make sure it is 75-80% with only distilled water in it.  I wish I could recommend a brand,
3.  Rinse out the box with the isopropyl
4.  LEave the box open and put it in a warming drawer for 2 hours.  Of an oven at 170 degrees.
5.  Remove it and let it cool, then go ahead and use it.

OK Effort:

1.  As the board  is conformally coated, the thing is probably ok with just a bake out at 170 for a few hours.

If you have an iexos, I would open the case and inspect for water in the PC board housing.  The case is on top of the mount, evident where the connectors are.  If water invaded the case then you probably will want to remove the board and bake it out.  Of you can use a hair dryer on it for 30 minutes or so to heat it all up and evaporate any water that might be under any of the ICs.  It is devilishly hard to remove without a bakeout.  I would do the oven bake out if were mine.  Remove the PC card and pt it in the oven.  

If you do remove the PC cards or touch them make sure you have static control.  You can do this by grabbing something metal and grounded in your house.  In the old days the water pipes were, but if you have a new house they are probably plastic.  So you can use the chassis of an appliance, say a toaster.  Generally these are grounds in the electrical system of the house.  Handle the board by the edges, try not to touch any connector pins or any other thing that is on the PC card.

As for the mechanics, I would open them up as best as I can and dry them out with paper towels and a hair dryer.

Hope your OTA didn't get a bath.

Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Water resistance?

Wes Mcdonald
 

That would be 170F!
Wes.


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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Derrell Oliver
 

Thanks Ian !!
I will try out your tips on this image, and will re-post once done !!
Thanks for the help !!
--
Derrell Oliver

ES iEXOS-100 PMC-Eight with ES Heavy Duty ST3 tripod & Azimuth Adjuster
ES USB Power Bank
Astro-Tech AT80ED.
Astro-Tech 0.80 Field Flattener/Reducer.
Meade Infinity ST80 with Lunt Solar dual speed crayford focuser.
Meade Polaris 90 with GSO dual speed crayford focuser.
Meade Polaris 130 with ScopeStuff 1.25 crayford focuser.
ZWO ASI120mc-s, Canon XSi 450d.
ZWO ASI120mm-mini & ZWO 30mm f/4 Mini Guide Scope
EQ2 Mount with Orion EQ-2M RA Drive.
AZ3 Alt-Azimuth Mount.


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Derrell Oliver
 
Edited

Thanks Wes !!
I was using my AT80ED with 560 FL and a 0.80 field flattener/focal reducer, so 
it should work out to 448 FL.
I had to over expose Jupiter a little to get the Galilean Moons & Saturn's rings to show up.
--
Derrell Oliver

ES iEXOS-100 PMC-Eight with ES Heavy Duty ST3 tripod & Azimuth Adjuster
ES USB Power Bank
Astro-Tech AT80ED.
Astro-Tech 0.80 Field Flattener/Reducer.
Meade Infinity ST80 with Lunt Solar dual speed crayford focuser.
Meade Polaris 90 with GSO dual speed crayford focuser.
Meade Polaris 130 with ScopeStuff 1.25 crayford focuser.
ZWO ASI120mc-s, Canon XSi 450d.
ZWO ASI120mm-mini & ZWO 30mm f/4 Mini Guide Scope
EQ2 Mount with Orion EQ-2M RA Drive.
AZ3 Alt-Azimuth Mount.


Re: Water resistance?

Steve Siedentop
 

Make sure it’s dry inside and out before you power it up and you should be fine.  If you have an area where you can set up a dehumidifier, that would be ideal.  The electronics are more of a concern than the mechanicals, but the electronics are quite robust.

-Steve

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 8:06 AM Turn Backyard Red <turnbackyardred@...> wrote:
I was wondering if anyone off hand could tell me how water resistant a few things are? I'm asking in here because of the mount, it's the most expensive part on the list. 

Automatic Sprinklers were turned on without my knowledge. 

Nikon D7000
ASIair pro
EXOS2-GT w/PMC-8 
Celestron C6-A-XLT 
Asi120mm mini
--
Mount: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Telescope: Celestron C6-A XLT
Main Camera: Canon SL2(200D) unmodified


--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 G11 with Ruland Couplers and One Piece Worm Blocks, Skywatcher NEQ-6
Scopes: ES ED127CF FCD100, Orion 6” Mak, Stellarvue SV80EDT, Coronado Solarmax 40
Cameras:  CentralDS CDS-600, CentralDS Astro 60D, Orion Starshoot SSAG
Msc: Moonlite Focusers, Astrozap Dew Straps, Pegasus Ultimate PowerBox
Software: PixInsight, Cartes du Ciel, BackyardEOS, SkySafari


Water resistance?

Turn Backyard Red
 

I was wondering if anyone off hand could tell me how water resistant a few things are? I'm asking in here because of the mount, it's the most expensive part on the list. 

Automatic Sprinklers were turned on without my knowledge. 

Nikon D7000
ASIair pro
EXOS2-GT w/PMC-8 
Celestron C6-A-XLT 
Asi120mm mini
--
Mount: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Telescope: Celestron C6-A XLT
Main Camera: Canon SL2(200D) unmodified


Re: PMC-Eight Customer and Dealer Training #pmc-eight

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

Hi Wes, Timothy,

Nope, not a community project, this is an ES project for our customers, dealers, and customer support group. This won't take years, the level of material is not that deep. It is meant as a comprehensive, concise GOTO Navigation Training program. I didn't want to divulge all the details as it is a work in progress, but Scott insisted. I expect to be able to roll it out next year sometime, probably by the end of the summer, The training manual will only be 100 - 125 pages probably. For more detail, I will refer to my two books.

--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: PMC-Eight Customer and Dealer Training #pmc-eight

Wes Mcdonald
 

Big job. No time.  Community contribution gonna be needed

Wes

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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


PMC-Eight Customer and Dealer Training #pmc-eight

Timothy Myers
 

I downloaded Jerry's draft version of the Explore Scientific "PMC-Eight GOTO Mount Control System Customer and Dealer Training System"

I was one of those that asked Jerry to do this. My work schedule has been insane of late and I cannot make the daily streams as often as I used to. In lieu of the online streams I have been reading through the training manual, and making notes as I go. I may be way ahead of the curve on some of these things but have read about Power Point Presentations, and Computer Based Testing (CBT).

I am not worried about a Certificate, however, I do wish to continue my education about this lifestyle we all love so much, and just wondered where all of this stood with regard to implementation?

The whole thing looks like a monumental task Jerry has taken on, and may take years to fully implement. Just curious where it stands for now.
--
Tim Myers

Telescopes:           Celestron 4SE, Celestron 8SE, SkyWatcher 100ED Pro
Mounts:                 4-5 SE, 6-8SE, EXOS-2GT with PMC-Eight
Cameras:               ASI1600MC Imaging Camera, Cooled, ASI120 Guide Camera
Focuser:               ZWO EAF
Scope Mini PC:    Topton Pentium
Laptop:                 Lenovo
Software:             CDC, SharpCap Pro, NINA, PHD2


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Ian Morison
 

Dear Derril,
                        this image shows the outer parts of the nebula far better that any I have taken (very well done) but, as you rightly say, the central part of the nebula is over exposed so that the trapezium stars cannot be seen.  I know of two ways to  'tame' it.  The first is to take far shorter exposures - I was using 12 seconds with a very similar setup -  but there will then be a vast number of frames to align and stack to bring up the outer parts of the nebula.  Probably better is to take a relatively small number of frames to nicely expose the central region and then blend the two together.  A crude method of doing this would be to clone from the short exposure image into your long exposure image.  A better method might be to use an HDR process that is available in many of the image processing packages.
All the very best with your imaging.  Appended is the Trapezium area taken with 12 second exposures.
Cheers,

Ian



Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

Ohhhhh.  Nice.   What focal length?  Nice
--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired

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