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Re: Installed ASCOM 6.5 SP1 Cannot Connect PMC-8

Mark Lamb
 

Here is the POTH setup screen:


Re: Installed ASCOM 6.5 SP1 Cannot Connect PMC-8

Wes Mcdonald
 

Mark

1.  Are you sure 6.5 got installed correctly

2.  Drop back to 6.4

Wes

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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Installed ASCOM 6.5 SP1 Cannot Connect PMC-8

Mark Lamb
 

I have been using my G11 w/ ASCOM, serial, for more than 2 years, and today I changed to IASCOM 6.5 SP1 from 6.4.  When installing I changed the option to also install POTH (and the other legacy parts).
Now, I cannot get POTH to connect to the mount.  I get the error






It will also not connect using Device Hub, giving me this error:


Tonight is dark, and I do not want to waste the night.

How can I get this to work?

Thanks!


Re: Wobbeling - can i do something about it? #EXOS2

Wes Mcdonald
 

Not sanguine the rocking is PE.  PE has a 10 minute period.  Its magnitude is +- 15-20 arc seconds.  Seems like more there. 

Wes.


--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: iExos 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Luiz Sanches
 

Wes, thank you.
Both Static with this numbers or DHCP is the same problem....
And I am not conecting with others wifi networks, because I am using internet via cable and wifi only for a mount.


Re: Wobbeling - can i do something about it? #EXOS2

 

Manuel,

The thing about guiding is that the real measure is 'round stars', despite what the graphs say.   The graphs are a useful diagnostic tool when the stars are not round, but they're not an end in itself.

Example:  
I live in an area that typically has 'seeing' that usually doesn't get above 'average' on astrospheric and other sites.
When it's in that range, I might see 0.9<->1.1<->1.4" total RMS error, but still get round stars, although a bit fatter than I'd like.  The PHD2 scatter diagram is all over the place, because the guide star is bouncing around.  Very annoying. 

But... when the seeing clears up and the scatter diagram tightens, I can get down to 0.6<->0.7 and life is good.  I still get round stars, just a bit tighter, but I feel better about it. :-)

Lots of reasons for the graphs to do undesirable things, but when evaluating, don't forget to factor in the effects of seeing.
    
Hope this helps...

Clear skies!  

- Bob

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 16:44, borderbridge wrote:

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your answer! I really appreciate it.
After what you wrote i think there might be something wrong with my guiding.
I just started guiding (tried 2 nights) and noticed some "stange movements" now and then in longer exposures.
So i thought it would be a good idea to test if they are there without guiding as well. This is why i had a closer look on the movements on the images you saw in the Video.

It might very well be that just my guiding is the problem while guiding and this phenomenon is the periodic error.

Thanks a lot for the input.

The next clear night(might be a week or two) i will have a closer look on my guiding.
Guiding is still quite new to me.

Greetings Manuel

Am 15.11.2020 um 21:21 schrieb Robert Hoskin:
Manuel,

Your video is a time lapse of 30-45s exposures, taken over 2 or 3 hours?

Well, you might be seeing the mount's ~600 second periodic error - that would be the side-to-side, and the drift down might be your polar alignment error showing up.  Periodic error is normal end expected - that's why we guide when doing longer exposures.

However, if you're guiding, that should correct for both of these problems and they shouldn't bother you much.  So...is your guiding ok, or not?

- Bob  



On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 12:51, borderbridge@... wrote:
Hi All,

I have an Exos2 PMC eight mount and an 8inch Newton on it.

Recently I started to see some Wobbling over Time( tried to do longer exposures). first i thought it might be a guiding problem so i tried without guiding. But the problem is still there

To better ilustrate what i mean i made a short video (6 seconds):

https://youtu.be/TkHyDzS8m-o

Each frame is a 30 or 45s exposure So this is happening over like 2 or three hours. But it is enough that i beginn to see it at about 60s exposures.  You can see M43 drifting downward... that is bad alignement and has nothing to to with my question. What you also see is a left and right movement . Because of that i cant do longer exposures even if i polaralign correctly. The Video without guiding so it is only the RA axis moving!

What could be the cause of this?

  • Maybe there are some parts i can check/replace?
  • Is it too much weight?
  • Or something else i can do about it?
Greetings

Manuel



--

Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Wobbeling - can i do something about it? #EXOS2

borderbridge
 

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your answer! I really appreciate it.
After what you wrote i think there might be something wrong with my guiding.
I just started guiding (tried 2 nights) and noticed some "stange movements" now and then in longer exposures.
So i thought it would be a good idea to test if they are there without guiding as well. This is why i had a closer look on the movements on the images you saw in the Video.

It might very well be that just my guiding is the problem while guiding and this phenomenon is the periodic error.

Thanks a lot for the input.

The next clear night(might be a week or two) i will have a closer look on my guiding.
Guiding is still quite new to me.

Greetings Manuel

Am 15.11.2020 um 21:21 schrieb Robert Hoskin:

Manuel,

Your video is a time lapse of 30-45s exposures, taken over 2 or 3 hours?

Well, you might be seeing the mount's ~600 second periodic error - that would be the side-to-side, and the drift down might be your polar alignment error showing up.  Periodic error is normal end expected - that's why we guide when doing longer exposures.

However, if you're guiding, that should correct for both of these problems and they shouldn't bother you much.  So...is your guiding ok, or not?

- Bob  



On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 12:51, borderbridge@... wrote:
Hi All,

I have an Exos2 PMC eight mount and an 8inch Newton on it.

Recently I started to see some Wobbling over Time( tried to do longer exposures). first i thought it might be a guiding problem so i tried without guiding. But the problem is still there

To better ilustrate what i mean i made a short video (6 seconds):

https://youtu.be/TkHyDzS8m-o

Each frame is a 30 or 45s exposure So this is happening over like 2 or three hours. But it is enough that i beginn to see it at about 60s exposures.  You can see M43 drifting downward... that is bad alignement and has nothing to to with my question. What you also see is a left and right movement . Because of that i cant do longer exposures even if i polaralign correctly. The Video without guiding so it is only the RA axis moving!

What could be the cause of this?

  • Maybe there are some parts i can check/replace?
  • Is it too much weight?
  • Or something else i can do about it?
Greetings

Manuel



--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Wobbeling - can i do something about it? #EXOS2

 

Manuel,

Your video is a time lapse of 30-45s exposures, taken over 2 or 3 hours?

Well, you might be seeing the mount's ~600 second periodic error - that would be the side-to-side, and the drift down might be your polar alignment error showing up.  Periodic error is normal end expected - that's why we guide when doing longer exposures.

However, if you're guiding, that should correct for both of these problems and they shouldn't bother you much.  So...is your guiding ok, or not?

- Bob  



On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 12:51, borderbridge@... wrote:

Hi All,

I have an Exos2 PMC eight mount and an 8inch Newton on it.

Recently I started to see some Wobbling over Time( tried to do longer exposures). first i thought it might be a guiding problem so i tried without guiding. But the problem is still there

To better ilustrate what i mean i made a short video (6 seconds):

https://youtu.be/TkHyDzS8m-o

Each frame is a 30 or 45s exposure So this is happening over like 2 or three hours. But it is enough that i beginn to see it at about 60s exposures.  You can see M43 drifting downward... that is bad alignement and has nothing to to with my question. What you also see is a left and right movement . Because of that i cant do longer exposures even if i polaralign correctly. The Video without guiding so it is only the RA axis moving!

What could be the cause of this?

  • Maybe there are some parts i can check/replace?
  • Is it too much weight?
  • Or something else i can do about it?
Greetings

Manuel



--
Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Wobbeling - can i do something about it? #EXOS2

borderbridge
 

Hi All,

I have an Exos2 PMC eight mount and an 8inch Newton on it.

Recently I started to see some Wobbling over Time( tried to do longer exposures). first i thought it might be a guiding problem so i tried without guiding. But the problem is still there

To better ilustrate what i mean i made a short video (6 seconds):

https://youtu.be/TkHyDzS8m-o

Each frame is a 30 or 45s exposure So this is happening over like 2 or three hours. But it is enough that i beginn to see it at about 60s exposures.  You can see M43 drifting downward... that is bad alignement and has nothing to to with my question. What you also see is a left and right movement . Because of that i cant do longer exposures even if i polaralign correctly. The Video without guiding so it is only the RA axis moving!

What could be the cause of this?

  • Maybe there are some parts i can check/replace?
  • Is it too much weight?
  • Or something else i can do about it?
Greetings

Manuel


Re: iExos 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

Luiz

Let’s try this

1.  Connect to the iexos. And quick do an ipconfig.  This will tell you the up address the pc obtained.  I believe it is 192.168.47.2 on the iexos.  Then turn off the iexos and change the pc to static from dhcp.  Set your ip to 192.168.47.2. Mask to 255.255.255.0.  Gateway is 192.168.47.1.

Then turn on the iexos and connect.  

Also make sure every other WiFi network your computer knows about is not set to automatically connect.  You might try this first.

Wes



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Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Luiz Sanches
 

Wes, thank you. Yes, I tried! I changed many times....
I reinstall all drivers.
Eduardo Simone, I install Poth hub and work for more time until have problems (in APT for exemple, in secunds the app crash, in Poth hub (or Ascom devide hub) will carsh in minutes.)
In short: I can't make the mount work without any crash in windows.

I tried on Mac and Linux and worked. In this systems I use Kstars. But, in both systems my camera Canon T6 dont work weel with Kstars and make the program crash. But in windows, with APT woks perfectly.

There are other aplication on mac or Linux that can manger the mount and the camera like what I see in Kstars or APT?


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

Luiz 

Probably not the issue but have you tried a different WiFi channel?  The unit comes off center freq.  try a channel (1,6,11) that is less crowded.
Maybe that will help.  

Wes

--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: Sould I worried about this? #EXOS2

Tyler Bowman - Explore Scientific Customer Service <Tbowman@...>
 

No, youll be completely fine. and the casting will not degrade, and the bubble level is effected by the casting. i always use a torpedo level for better level accuracy. i hope this helps and please dont hesitant to email me at Tyler@... 


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Luiz Sanches
 

Yes


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Wes Mcdonald
 

Luiz. Are you using the “anycpu” version of the driver?  Seems to work best, and can be run in 32 or 64 bit machines.

Wes

--
Wes, Southport NC
EXos2-GT PMC-8, iExos 100
ES ED 127, 10" LX200GPS+wedge, Astro-Tech 8" Newt, ETX-90, 60mm no-name guide scope ~ 260mm FL
Polemaster, Orion ST-80 and SAG, ZWO 290MM, D5300 astro modified
Nina, Bootcamped Mac Mini control computer, RDP to iMAC
110 amp hour lead acid deep discharge battery for field power
Electrical Engineer, Retired


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Luiz Sanches
 

Thank you for the answer. But, I said device hub only for exemple. ANY program don't work weel. 
I would like to use APT, that works fine with my camera and can manager the mount only by secunds, after that the green light turns off and crash the aplication...


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Eduardo Simone
 

Instead of using device hub on ASCOM use the Poth hub, it’s still available when you download the new version of ASCOM, it’ll ask you if you want poth hub. What ever reason, the exos and device hub don’t get along to well. But works great on POTH. 
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Meade LX 80 6" SCT and Meade DS 114mm Newtonian
Meade 2nd Digital Series Goto mount with 497 bandbox
ExploreScientific Exos II with PMC-8
ZWO ASI533MC-Pro
ZWO ASI120MC


Re: iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Eduardo Simone
 


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Meade LX 80 6" SCT and Meade DS 114mm Newtonian
Meade 2nd Digital Series Goto mount with 497 bandbox
ExploreScientific Exos II with PMC-8
ZWO ASI533MC-Pro
ZWO ASI120MC


Re: Sould I worried about this? #EXOS2

sotirios.gg@...
 

Thank you all for your comments!
 
@Ian Morison : Yes, I could use araldite but that means that the resale value (I am not thinking of this...) goes really down!
 
@Mark Christensen : You said it all!
 
@Mario : Yiassou Mario! :)
 
As all of you point out about the ES relations to their customers (that matches my information prior the purchase), I hope that there will be a solution. Despite some minor things that i don't like in this mount, I wish that it will stay with me for a long time. The carrying capacity, the low wheight and the sturdingess are really fits my stantards. As for tracking, I got 20'' exposure with just a basic polar alligment and Ithink it will be much more if I hit the proper polar precision.

I allready messaged the ES in Facebook and I am waiting for some responce. Phone is not really my thing, because I am not doing good in English verbally. 
It is really nice and helpfull the excisting of this group. 
Thank you all!
 
Clear skies!


iEXOS 100 disconecting from wifi #iEXOS-100

Luiz Sanches
 

Hello
I bought an iExus 100 and since the beginning I have a lot of problems connecting to it.
To make it clear: I understood perfectly what situation to use UDP / TCP and cable.
 
On the IPAD the mount works perfectly and I can follow objects and the mount does not disconnect.
 
On windows, it connects, I can follow an object and seconds after being connected, the mount turns off the yellow light and causes the program that I'm using to crash (Ascom Device Hub, Stellarium, APT or C2A). With cable, the problems are the same. A few seconds later the mount turns on the green light, goes back to work and again turns off the green light and crash the used program. Both static and manual IP the problem is the same. I also tested on another computer; a windows on the Macbook Air and the problem is the same. Perhaps the problem is with Ascom Drivers.
 
In TCP / IP on Windows, ExploreStars does not Slew for an object, but controls the mount manually. The yellow light remains constant and the program does not freeze.

Thank you for your help!

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