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Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

 

Paul,
 
Out of curiosity, when you tested indoors vs. outdoors, did you change from mains power to battery?  
 
I believe Win10 has power management settings for the wifi adapter, and I seem to recall that we've had the odd post concerning that.  Just wondering if Win 10 decided to power down your adapter on you...
 
FWIW...
 
- Bob
 
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Mounts: ES PMC-8 EXOS2
Scopes: SV 102EDT, ZWO 60/280 Guide
Cameras:  Nikon D5300, Altair GPCAM2 290M
Software: ASCOM, CdC, AstroTortilla, BYN Pro, Sharpcap, PHD2
Computer:  Thinkpad x230, Win7Pro/64


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Mikas
 

Hi Paul,

I would definitely go outside to confirm it's not working there. How it could be? What changes when you go outside? Does Laptop get connected to another wifi instead of PMC-Eight?. Different power supply? Does the laptop run on battery there? Perhaps there is microwave interference from faulty street light? Is there 5G telecom antenna nearby? Use a wifi analyzer app to check if there is a neighbors wifi on channel 1 near your mount. Must be some reason for it to be working inside, but not outside.

I have nearly new Skywatcher EQ5 pro with Synscan Go-To, but because of oblong stars had to upgrade to EXOS II also. So on Synscan there is no search at all. Arguably better than EXOS II  would be also belt-driven Sky-Watcher EQ6-R PRO and you can get many tablets for the price difference. I bought TECLAST P20HD 10.1 Inch 8-Core 4GB Tablet Android for £128, but it could be way cheaper to get the job done. The only requirement is an SD card slot and can be as old as Android 4.4 kitkat.


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Harry
 

Paul,
Another option I used when I didn’t want to use my iPad, was an inexpensive Amazon Fire HD8. You need a micro SD card to separately load the ExploreStars database, but I had great luck with it. Your Windows laptop should do this fine.  It is a modified Android device. Just make sure the ExploreStars app is still available from the Fire App Store. I think mine was a 32mb unit.
I certainly understand your frustration, but the mount really is a great product. I have been there.
--
Harry
Vero Beach, FL

Mounts: ES iExos 100-PMC Eight
Scopes: ES  ED80CF, ES AR102,  Meade ETX 90 EC (Deforked)
Guide: ZWO 30mm Mini, ZWO ASI120MM-Mini
Software: ASIair Pro, iPad Pro, MacOS, Starry Sky Stacker, Affinity Photo, Lightroom,  SkySafari Plus
Cameras: Nikon D600, D5500
Misc: ES USB Power Bank, Rigel QuikFinder, 0.8x Focal Reducer
Filters:  Optolong L-Pro, L-eNhance






Re: PHD2 stopped talking to my mount #EXOS2 #OpenGOTO #pmc-eight #ASCOM

Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:01 AM, Jennifer Shelly wrote:
The third screen shot in post 8515 shows the mount is connected, but the camera is not connected.  I am not sure if it makes a difference or not, but have you tried connecting the camera and the mount at the same time and the tried moving the mount in PHD2?  
Hi Jennifer, James,

Yes, I think in order to send manual pulse guide commands, you may have to connect the camera, although I have not tried using the manual guide without the camera to see if that is actually a problem. Also since guide commands are very very small, you may not be able to see any "physical" movement of the mount at all. The way you should test this is to first slew to an object using a planetarium program (which I will explain why it is needed) and make sure it is tracking. Once you do that then bring up the manual guiding in PHD2 and zoom up on the target in your planetarium so you can see small position changes on the chart. Make sure your chart is zoomed up to see the motion when you push the guide buttons.

Give that a try and let us know
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

 

Paul please persevere with the mount and ExploreStars, it is a very good programme and once you get your head round it you will love it. Like any other programme or software to work to its full potential you must definitely have a good polar align so that the mount knows where you are. I had the same problem as I thought I was polar aligned but the polar scope inside the mount needed collimating itself. I had weeks of nothing working properly until I discovered this. Since it was collimated I have had no probs with slewing to anything, maybe a slight tweak here and there to get things central, I don’t even do any star align.  Although ExploreStars is mostly for observing, once you know you have a good PA the mount tracks superbly, good enough for short exposures. I can now push it to 1min/ 90 sec exp. please check your polar scope, I would put my house on that not being properly calibrated. Cheers, Mick. 


On 16 Oct 2020, at 19:20, James Everson <jeverson.biz@...> wrote:

Paul,

I can understand your frustration. My first few outings with the mount was challenging. It has a rather steep learning curve compared to my Celestron AVX mount. However, once you figure it out, it is a great mount. It sounds like you are using either a laptop or a Windows tablet to connect to the PMC8 device. I would suggest, if you happen to have one, is using an iPad when getting started. It connects to the PMC8 wifi easily and the databases are updated automatically. I am only just starting to get into auto-guiding which involves moving from my iPad to my laptop and I am running into some challenges again. As with all new things, we have to learn and adapt. ES does seem to target more intermediate to advanced users. Give it some time and I think you'll find that even with it's quirks, it's a good mount.

Good luck and clear skies

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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT

--
Michael Whitaker
Wakefield, UK. 
MOUNTS. Exos-2 PMC Eight..
SCOPE: RVO Horizon 72ed. 
CAMERA: Not Applicable. 
SOFTWARE: Just iPad at moment. 


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 
Edited

Carried everything inside again, gave it one more try, and now it's connecting again :(. 
I'm not carrying it outside again to only find out it doesn't work outside.

I'm using a Microsoft Surface laptop.. expensive stuff. If that doesn't work I definitely need another mount.
I have an old iPad 3 lying around somewhere which I don't use anymore, because most apps need a newer iOS then the iPad3 is capable of.  is the ExploreStars App compatible with iOS 9.3.5 ?
I am not planning on buying another iPad. I'd rather buy a better mount.

It may be a good mount, but when it is not working, it's just a heap of scrap metal.

EDIT: ExploreStars is not compatible with this iPad..


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James
 

Paul,

I can understand your frustration. My first few outings with the mount was challenging. It has a rather steep learning curve compared to my Celestron AVX mount. However, once you figure it out, it is a great mount. It sounds like you are using either a laptop or a Windows tablet to connect to the PMC8 device. I would suggest, if you happen to have one, is using an iPad when getting started. It connects to the PMC8 wifi easily and the databases are updated automatically. I am only just starting to get into auto-guiding which involves moving from my iPad to my laptop and I am running into some challenges again. As with all new things, we have to learn and adapt. ES does seem to target more intermediate to advanced users. Give it some time and I think you'll find that even with it's quirks, it's a good mount.

Good luck and clear skies

--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

I carried all my stuff outside, hooked everything up, and now ExploreStars is stuck at Please Wait.. damn what a really bad program it is..
Last week I tried everything out inside the house, and it was all hunky dory, and now I will have to abondon the first clear skies in weeks, because the system won't work

I guess I need another brand of mount and abandon ES.  It's one disappointment after the other.. 


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James
 

Yeah, was a typo. Which interface are you using (iPad, Android, PC)? Are you sure your database is up to date? While there are some objects I couldn't find, I have found about 90-95% that I have searched for. Some objects have NGC, HIP, IC, SAO, and other identifiers. Sometimes you just have to find the one ES uses.


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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

Some objects will also come up if you just search "heart" (without the "")
When I search for "heart" I get 9 objects, none of them "The heart nebula" so that is kinda useless.


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

I guess, you meant HIP #, but the ones I tried are not in the database.
This application is not as handy as I thought :( 
It's frustration after frustration. When an object # is not found in the database, you have to renavigate to the search form.. this is poorly designed :(


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James
 

The Heart Nebula resides within an open cluster. If you like, you can find a bright star in or near the nebula and use it's HIT # as a slew point.


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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

Hi,

My mistake, the longitude and latitude info was incorrect for my location :( Hence it didn't show the Slew To button.

However, IC 1805 (the heart nebula according to Stellarium) returns the Cassiopeia Objects Group. Not the Heart nebula. This object type is "Open cluster"  not "Nebula"
NGC 1795 returns the Dorado objects group.. Not the nebula..

I'm confused ..

Thanks,
Paul


Re: Dec axis motor system faulty or newbie error?? #EXOS2

Tony
 

I would certainly think you'd be fine opening the inspection door.  Its a simple clip in piece of plastic, no tools necessary.  You'll at least get a quick look inside.   Once you have a visual confirmation on what is slipping, hopefully support can advise you on the proper steps.  My guess is that it will mirror what Robert suggested, but you may want to wait to hear it straight from them.

Good luck,
-Tony



On 10/16/2020 12:35 PM, Paul Mogg wrote:
Thank you very much for those notes Robert, and for your reply Tony. I will read your notes and see if I can fix it, whatever it is. My only concern is that if I attempt a repair or open the motor housing that I'll nulify my warranty on the mount. It's only 10 days or so old. 

Thanks again,

Paul
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Location: southern Spain

Equipment:
Explore Scientific EOS-2 PMC-Eight mount
Skywatcher 200DPS Newtonian telescope
Telrad.
28mm 2" and 12mm 1.25" lenses.
2 and 5 x Barlows.
Macbook air 
Huawei Android T5 Tablet
Nikon D3200 DSLR
Software: ExploreStars Android & WIndows, Stellarium OSX & Android, AstroDSLR


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

 

Use the search function in ExploreStars. 


On 16 Oct 2020, at 17:56, James Everson <jeverson.biz@...> wrote:

I know it's in there I as I got this a few weeks back...

<Heart_Soul_001.png>

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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT

--
Michael Whitaker
Wakefield, UK. 
MOUNTS. Exos-2 PMC Eight..
SCOPE: RVO Horizon 72ed. 
CAMERA: Not Applicable. 
SOFTWARE: Just iPad at moment. 


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James
 

I know it's in there I as I got this a few weeks back...


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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

James
 

You can search by the NGC #.

In the case of the Heart Nebula, it would be NGC 1795 or you can try IC 1805. Most objects in the sky have different identifiers. Some objects will also come up if you just search "heart" (without the "").

Clear skies.


--
Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Non-Messier objects in ExploreStars #EXOS2 #ExploreStars

Paul Meesters
 

Hi,

Can someone explain to me how to find and use non-messier objects in the ExploreStars application ?
I can't find a way to, for instance, find the Heart nebula and slew to it..

I thought this app contained 10.000 objects to GoTo ?
But in stead I only can find some Messier objects.. what gives ?

Thanks,
Paul


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

James
 


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Mounts: Explore Scientific EXOS II GT, iEXOS-100, Celestron AVX
Scope: Explore Scientific AR102, AR152, FirstLight 152mm Mak-Cassegrain, SpaceCat 51
Guide Scope: Astromania 50mm Guidescope (190mm focal length)
Guide Camera: ZWO ASI120MM Mini Monochrome
Camera: Canon RP (IR modification)
Software: PHD2, ASCOM, and APT


Re: Astrophotography Done with the iEXOS-100, EXOS 2, and G11 Post your Pictures and Details! Lets Show What These Mounts Can Do. #G11 #astrophotography #iEXOS-100 #EXOS2

Timothy Myers
 

Mars, fair, not great,

I was lazy and left my 8" SCT in the garage, it would have done better with more Focal Length



--
Tim Myers

Telescopes:           Celestron 4SE, Celestron 8SE, SkyWatcher 100ED Pro
Mounts:                 4-5 SE, 6-8SE, EXOS-2GT with PMC-Eight
Cameras:               ASI1600MC Imaging Camera, Cooled, ASI120 Guide Camera
Focuser:               ZWO EAF
Scope Mini PC:    Topton Pentium
Laptop:                 Lenovo
Software:             CDC, SharpCap Pro, NINA, PHD2

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