Can't connect anymore after trying to switch to serial #iEXOS-100 #ASCOM


David
 

Hi everyone,

I've been using without problems my new iexos-100 via wireless for about a month. Today I tried to switch to serial to start with some imaging and got into an issue. I've read a lot of topics but haven't found something that might help.

I didn't notice that there was an application available to perform the switch, so I tried to make the switch manually using the manual (PMC8-AN003). I connected normally to the wifi and when using packet sender to make the switch from UDP to TCP, I was able to send the ESY! command. I noticed that the green LED flashed, but never received the answer from the mount with ESY0!.

When I tried to TELNET i noticed that something was wrong, because the connection was refused. I can connect to the wifi, but nothing works. The app now doesn't work (windows/iOS), I can't telnet via wifi, I can't connect through serial.

While looking for answers I found the PMC Configuration manager and PMC8 utility. Tried both and all connections but neither can find a connection to the mount.

Anyone have any suggestion what to try? I see the reset button but that one seems to only cut the power, so it's not very helpful.

Thanks,
David


Chris Tardif
 

Please have a read of the doc I wrote and put in the files section. I had the same problem.  I just kept moving forward with the instruction.

https://espmc-eight.groups.io/g/MAIN/files/User%20Contributions/iEXOS-100%20Walkthough
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Mounts: Explore Scientific IEXOS-100 w Celestron CG5 tripod, iOptron CEM 40
Scopes: Explore Scientific FCD-100 ED-102CF, Various Canon lenses, ZWO mini-guidescope, StarField 60mm guide-scope.
CameraASI120MM Mini (mono), Altair GPCAM 130
Control PC: Intel NUC
Loc: 44 -79


Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:54 AM, Chris Tardif wrote:
Please have a read of the doc I wrote and put in the files section. I had the same problem.  I just kept moving forward with the instruction.
Hi Chris,

I noticed that on page 14 of your document that you suggest changing the information in the PMC-Eight ASCOM Driver using the POTH and you show the POTH Setup dialog box. I suggest that you change this to make sure everyone uses the PMC-Eight ASCOM Driver setup dialog to make all changes to the driver settings: Users need to make sure they set all the data in the different tabs as necessary for their configuration. Thanks!


 
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Explore Scientific, LLC.
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1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


Chris Tardif
 

I can do that.  I was under the impression perhaps incorrectly, that when you set something in POTH it finds its way down into the driver.  Is that incorrect?


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Mounts: Explore Scientific IEXOS-100 w Celestron CG5 tripod, iOptron CEM 40
Scopes: Explore Scientific FCD-100 ED-102CF, Various Canon lenses, ZWO mini-guidescope, StarField 60mm guide-scope.
CameraASI120MM Mini (mono), Altair GPCAM 130
Control PC: Intel NUC
Loc: 44 -79


David
 

Thanks! I’ll give it a try this afternoon. It looks very detailed. 


 

Chris, your guide doc is extremely useful for beginners. Much appreciated!

-Peter


Jerry Hubbell - Explore Scientific VP Engineering
 

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 10:34 AM, Chris Tardif wrote:
Is that incorrect?
No, that's not incorrect in principle, but I am feel more secure setting the values in the driver itself as that is what I can guarantee. There are also other values that are not available to set in the POTH setup also such as the Wired and Wireless communications settings.
 
--
Jerry Hubbell
Vice President of Engineering

Explore Scientific, LLC.
jrh at explorescientific.com

www.explorescientificusa.com
1010 S. 48th Street
Springdale, AR 72762
1-866-252-3811

Author: Scientific Astrophotography: How Amateurs Can Generate and Use Professional Imaging Data
             Remote Observatories for Amateur Astronomers: Using High-Powered Telescopes From Home


Mark Slade Remote Observatory (MSRO) IAU MPC W54 Equipment
Wilderness, VA
Mounts
: ES PMC-Eight G11 + Telescope Drive Master (TDM)
Scopes: ES 165 FPL-53 ED APO CF, ES 102 FCD100 ED APO CF
Cameras:  QHY174M-GPS + FW, QHY163C
Misc: 3-inch 0.7x Focal Reducer Field Flattener, Filters: Luminance,
Red, V-band Photometric, Diffuser, 200 lpmm Spectral Grating

Software: MaxIm DL 6, Cartes du Ciel, Astrometrica, AstroImageJ, AutoStakkert!


David
 

Hi. One of your steps helped me to figure out what was the problem. 


when I was checking the serial port I noticed that my laptop wasn’t recognizing the serial port connection. So I uninstalled the driver, looked for the ft232r usb uart driver and installed it. After that PMC8 utility immediately was able to connect to the mount via Serial. 


Thanks a lot! Your guide is also helping me with the next steps. 


Chris Tardif
 

Thanks that's great.  Happy to hear that Sunday afternoon was time well spent. 

I have updated the document to include some feedback from Jerry

Chris

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Mounts: Explore Scientific IEXOS-100 w Celestron CG5 tripod, iOptron CEM 40
Scopes: Explore Scientific FCD-100 ED-102CF, Various Canon lenses, ZWO mini-guidescope, StarField 60mm guide-scope.
CameraASI120MM Mini (mono), Altair GPCAM 130
Control PC: Intel NUC
Loc: 44 -79


 

Chris, Jerry,
I'm been having issues as of yesterday after installing ES Config Manager, ASCOM driver and am at the point where I was uploading the new firmware, following instructions in Chris's notes/document.

Prior to attempting to upload the firmware, my iPad ExploreStars stopped working last evening. I dmanage  to connect to the PMC-Eight WiFi, however the LRUD buttons have no effect on the mount.

Thinking that I need the latest firmware, I started down that path. Console output is below, together with screen print of Config Manager UI attached. Not sure at this point what the status is. Whether I should disconnect and reinstall everything and restart the process.

Also, the ASCOM diagnostics tests all passed prior to this.

Thanks,
Peter

Console Output:

20       EVT:503-Checking COM3.
EVT:505-Propeller chip version 1 found on COM3.
EVT:506-Loading RAM
EVT:507-Verifying RAM
EVT:508-Programming EEPROM
EVT:509-Verifying EEPROM
INF:451-Success.

19       Path to EEPROM: "C:\Users\pmasi\Downloads\PMC8_FirmwareEEPROM\1A01C_10B_3.eeprom"
18       Path to Propellent.exe:"C:\Program Files (x86)\Explore Scientific Utilities\PMC-8 Configuration Manager 1.0.3\Propellent.exe "
17       Attempting to upload ROM
16       Mount appears to be connected on Serial
15       EsMountManager: Verified - Serial Connection
14       EsMountManager: Try to Verify - Serial Connection
13       Received: ESGvES1A10B3!
12       Sending via Serial: ESGv!
11       Received: ESGp0000000!
10       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!
9       Received: ESGp0000000!
8       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!
7       Received: ESGp0000000!
6       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!
5       Received: ESGp0000000!
4       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!
3       Received: ESGvES1A10B3!
2       Sending via Serial: ESGv!
1       Switching to ASCOM...
0       Mount appears to be connected on Serial
 


jrichard333 <jrichard333@hotmail.com>
 

Good day Peter,

 

You get to the window below by going through POTH setup.  This is the window you should see and then you can select to connect via serial connection, provided you taken

care of everything else.

 

JR

 

From: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io [mailto:MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Singh
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:16 PM
To: MAIN@ESPMC-Eight.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ESPMC-Eight] Can't connect anymore after trying to switch to serial #iexos-100 #ASCOM

 

Chris, Jerry,
I'm been having issues as of yesterday after installing ES Config Manager, ASCOM driver and am at the point where I was uploading the new firmware, following instructions in Chris's notes/document.

Prior to attempting to upload the firmware, my iPad ExploreStars stopped working last evening. I dmanage  to connect to the PMC-Eight WiFi, however the LRUD buttons have no effect on the mount.

Thinking that I need the latest firmware, I started down that path. Console output is below, together with screen print of Config Manager UI attached. Not sure at this point what the status is. Whether I should disconnect and reinstall everything and restart the process.

Also, the ASCOM diagnostics tests all passed prior to this.

Thanks,
Peter

Console Output:

20       EVT:503-Checking COM3.

EVT:505-Propeller chip version 1 found on COM3.

EVT:506-Loading RAM

EVT:507-Verifying RAM

EVT:508-Programming EEPROM

EVT:509-Verifying EEPROM

INF:451-Success.

19       Path to EEPROM: "C:\Users\pmasi\Downloads\PMC8_FirmwareEEPROM\1A01C_10B_3.eeprom"

18       Path to Propellent.exe:"C:\Program Files (x86)\Explore Scientific Utilities\PMC-8 Configuration Manager 1.0.3\Propellent.exe "

17       Attempting to upload ROM

16       Mount appears to be connected on Serial

15       EsMountManager: Verified - Serial Connection

14       EsMountManager: Try to Verify - Serial Connection

13       Received: ESGvES1A10B3!

12       Sending via Serial: ESGv!

11       Received: ESGp0000000!

10       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!

9       Received: ESGp0000000!

8       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!

7       Received: ESGp0000000!

6       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!

5       Received: ESGp0000000!

4       Sending via Serial: ESGp0!

3       Received: ESGvES1A10B3!

2       Sending via Serial: ESGv!

1       Switching to ASCOM...

0       Mount appears to be connected on Serial

 


 

Thank you JR. 

I've just completed my POTH Hub updates see below.I am assuming that it's good to go for ASCOM, at this oint.

Thanks,
Peter

POTH Profile:
 <Default>                 ES_PMC8 Telescope
                    COM Port                  COM3
                    COM Speed                 115200
                    DEC Park Position         0
                    DEC Sidereal Rate Fraction 0.4
                    IP Address                192.168.47.1
                    IP Port                   54372
                    Minimum Pulse Time        100
                    Mount Rate                Sidereal
                    Mount Type                Explore Scientific iEXOS-100
                    RA Park Position          0
                    RA Sidereal Rate Fraction 0.4
                    Rate Offset arc-sec/sec   0
                    RefractionApplied         False
                    Site Ambient Temperature  59
                    Site Elevation meters     260
                    Site Latitude             37.9166666666667
                    Site Location             Explore Scientific HQ
                    Site Longitude            -120.633333333333
                    Telescope Aperture Area   0.005024
                    Telescope Aperture Diameter 0.08
                    Telescope Focal Length    0.48
                    Total DEC Counts          4147200
                    Total RA Counts           4147200
                    Trace Level               False
                    WIFI Module ID            ESP-WROOM-02
                    Wireless Enabled          False
                    Wireless Protocol         TCP

Properties:
                   AdvancedSetup             -1
                    Aperture                   .08
                    ApertureArea               .005024
                    AutoUnpark                -1
                    Backlash                  0
                    DoesRefraction             2
                    DomeMode                  0
                    Elevation                  260
                    EquSystem                  1
                    FocalLength                .48
                    FocusMode                 0
                    HAMode                    0
                    Latitude                   37.9166666666667
                    Left                       100
                    Longitude                 -120.633333333333
                    MeridianDelay              0
                    MeridianDelayEast          0
                    MotionControl             -1
                    QuietMode                 0
                    RegVer                    6.0
                    ScopeID                   ASCOM.ES_PMC8.Telescope
                    ScopeName                 Explore Scientific PMC-Eight ASCOM Driver
                    Simple                    0
                    SlewSettleTime             0
                    TimeNag                   -1
                    Top                        100
Emulate             <Default>                 <Empty>
Emulate             AltAz                     0
Emulate             DateTime                  0
Emulate             DoesRefraction            0
Emulate             Elevation                 0
Emulate             Equ                       0
Emulate             EquSystem                 0
Emulate             LatLong                   0
Emulate             Optics                    0
Emulate             SideOfPier                0
Emulate             SiderealTime              0
Emulate             SlewAltAz                 0
Emulate             SlewAltAzAsync            0
Emulate             SyncAltAz                 0
 


jrichard333 <jrichard333@hotmail.com>
 

Good day Peter,

 

Looks good.  I was concerned about the LAT and Long, but it shows you are in the state of California.  So that is

I believe the wrong lat/ lon would show you somewhere in Arkansas by default.

 

Now that you are connected via serial, you might want to play around with the mount inside.  I don’t know if you are using

any other pieces of software, but make sure you have everything connected before going outside.  If not, you could get

very frustrated.  This is something I posted a while ago.

 

To connect ASCOM Wireless or ASCOM Serial to the mount, you will need the following:

1.       Explore Scientific PMC-Eight  ASCOM driver.  Scroll down to the bottom of the page:

https://www.explorescientific.com/pages/software-and-downloads-for-pmc-eight-system

2.       Explore Scientific PMC-Eight Configuring Manger by Chris Moses.  Scroll down to the bottom of the page:

https://www.explorescientific.com/pages/software-and-downloads-for-pmc-eight-system

3.       ASCOM Platform:  https://ascom-standards.org/

4.       Standard USB A to USB mini B cable (IEXOS-100):  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077RBSYTR/ref=twister_B077R4QYRZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

These are the steps I use to connect Explore Stars (UDP) to ASCOM Wireless (TCP) and finally Explore Stars (UDP) to ASCOM Serial.   

Don’t laugh at me, I need these steps or I will mess up J.   So far, I have not had an instance where ASCOM POTH failed to connect.   

ASCOM POTH has locked up due to me connecting and running APT and Stellarium/ Stellarium Scope at the same time connected to the mount.  Through

many failed attempts, I have learned only one piece of software can control the mount at a time L.

 

Explore Stars (UDP) to ASCOM Wireless (TCP) Process:

1.       Change Network WiFi to PMC-Eight-xxxx WiFi

2.       Open PMC-Eight Configuration manager

3.       Expand window so you can see everything

4.       Go to Connection Tab

5.       Select mount type:  iEXOS-100 for me

6.       Click Find Current Connection

7.       The only option that will appear will be

“Via Wireless ASCOM (TCP)

8.       Click on via wireless ASCOM (TCP)

Note:  at the bottom of the PMC-Eight Configuration Manager you will

see highlighted in green TCP and PMC-Eight-xxxx

9.       Open ASCOM Poth

10.   Click setup; ”POTH Setup” screen will pop up

11.   Click Setup and select “Enable WiFi TCP/IP”

12.   Click “Ok” and “Ok” again

13.   Connect ASCOM Poth to mount

14.   Now you should be able to connect all of your software via ASCOM POTH HUB

15.   Going back to ExploreStars

16.   If PMC-Eight Configuration Manager is already open, proceed; if not, open and proceed

17.   Select  “via ExploreStars (UDP).

18.   Now you can use the ExploreStars Android app

 

Explore Stars (UDP) to ASCOM Serial process (iEXOS-100):  a bit more involved going back:

1.       Change Network WiFi to PMC-Eight-xxxx WiFi

2.       Open PMC-Eight Configuration manager

3.       Expand window so you can see everything

4.       Go to Connection Tab

5.       Select mount type:  iEXOS-100

6.       Close PMC-Eight Configuration Manager

7.       Plug in cable from mount to PC

8.       Open PMC-Eight Configuration Manager

9.       Go to Connection Tab the com port should have a number in it.

10.   Select mount type:  IEXOS-100 for me

11.   Select the following option via ASCOM (Serial)

12.   Select “Do It”

13.   Bottom line will display connection mode ‘Serial”  and PMC network

14.   Open ASCOM Poth

15.   Click setup; ”POTH Setup” screen will pop up

16.   Click Setup and select “Enable Serial Port”

17.   Select the Com Port

18.   That’s it; you are ready to play and connect other pieces of software to your mount.

19.   Going back to ExploreStars; remember, there are multiple paths you can take to get

back to ExploreStars.   What follows is my method for bringing everything back to wireless

20.   Go to ASCOM POTH

21.   Disconnect mount if connected.

22.   Click Setup; the “POTH Setup” menu will pop up

23.   Click Setup; enable WiFi TCP/ IP; click Ok

24.   You can now close ASCOM POTH

25.   Close PMC-Eight Configuration Manager

26.   Reopen PMC-Eight Configuration Manager

27.   Click “via wireless ASCOM (TCP)”

Note:  Message window will state “Switching to TCP......Success - switched to TCP”

28.   Click via ExploreStars (UDP)

29.   Note:  Message window will state Switching to UDP....Successfully switched to UDP”

30.   Now you can play with the ExploreStars app again.

 

My progress report: 

1.       Green is a pass no problems

2.       Yellow, might pass if I decide to embrace the cold

3.       Red fill, might pass; however, it requires embracing the cold/ actual testing.

4.       Nomenclature, spelling, logic may be way off, but I am a beginner J.

 

The new season has opened regarding planetary imaging. 

Planetary Objects:

Mars (high priority), Jupiter/ Saturn (very low priority).

 

JR


 

Thank you JR for your encouragement. I realize this is a journey and it should be enjoyed ! Ive been using a manual 8” Newtonian for over a decade and the automated/Goto world is new even though I’m a software engineer with a science background . I've left the scope alone for the past few hours and it is tracking. 

what Im still not clear on is, which apps should be left active other than my image capturing software ? The ultimate goal is astrophotography.

much appreciate everyone’s input !

Peter